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From: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: GCC 3.4 Heads-up
Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2004 16:57:38 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3FF5E952.70308@tmr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0312252021540.14874@home.osdl.org>

Linus Torvalds wrote:

> Actually, those language extensions (while documented for a long time) are 
> pretty ugly. 
> 
> Some of that ugliness turns into literal bugs when C++ is used.
> 
> The cast/conditional expression as lvalue are _particularly_ ugly 
> extensions, since there is absolutely zero point to them. They are very 
> much against what C is all about, and writing something like this:
> 
> 	a ? b : c = d;
> 
> is something that only a high-level language person could have come up 
> with. The _real_ way to do this in C is to just do
> 
> 	*(a ? &b : &c) = d;
> 
> which is portable C, does the same thing, and has no strange semantics.

I would probably write
   ( a ? b : c ) = d;
instead, having learned C when some compilers parsed ? wrong without 
parens. Actually I can't imagine writing that at all, but at least with 
parens humans can read it easily. Ugly code.

Your suggestion is not portable, if b or c are declared "register" there 
are compilers which will not allow taking the address, and gcc will give 
you a warning.


-- 
bill davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
   CTO TMR Associates, Inc
   Doing interesting things with small computers since 1979

  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-01-02 22:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-12-26  1:46 GCC 3.4 Heads-up Chris Meadors
2003-12-26  3:46 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-12-26  4:34   ` Linus Torvalds
2003-12-26  6:04     ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-12-26  6:58     ` Andy Isaacson
2003-12-26  7:07       ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-12-26  7:08       ` Linus Torvalds
2003-12-29 16:13       ` David Lloyd
2004-01-02 21:57     ` Bill Davidsen [this message]
2004-01-03 21:11       ` Krzysztof Halasa
2004-01-04  5:48         ` Bill Davidsen
2004-01-04 20:41           ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-05  1:28             ` Bill Davidsen
2004-01-05  1:38               ` Måns Rullgård
2004-01-05 23:49                 ` Ingo Oeser
2004-01-05  2:25               ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-05  4:15                 ` Bill Davidsen
2004-01-05  4:36                   ` Linus Torvalds
2003-12-30  1:37 ` Rusty Russell
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-12-26 11:02 linux
2003-12-26 20:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-12-27 16:39 ` Andreas Schwab
     [not found] <16PqK-8eK-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <16RiU-2kO-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <16S5h-3no-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
2004-01-06 21:06     ` David Mosberger-Tang
2004-01-06 22:33       ` Richard Henderson
2004-01-06 23:23         ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-07  9:54           ` Richard Henderson

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