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[89.77.68.124]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id o16sm407493lfk.109.2021.11.07.01.11.44 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 07 Nov 2021 01:11:45 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3ab9583f-de50-e403-955d-89e085d4274a@canonical.com> Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2021 10:11:43 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.2.1 Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] ARM: s3c: mark as deprecated and schedule removal after 2022 Content-Language: en-US To: Arnd Bergmann , =?UTF-8?Q?Heiko_St=c3=bcbner?= Cc: Cedric Roux , Russell King , Linus Walleij , Linux ARM , Linux Kernel Mailing List , "moderated list:ARM/SAMSUNG EXYNOS ARM ARCHITECTURES" , Olof Johansson , Kukjin Kim , Marek Szyprowski , Sylwester Nawrocki , Tomasz Figa , Chanwoo Choi , Inki Dae , Sam Van Den Berge , Lihua Yao References: <20211102110519.142434-1-krzysztof.kozlowski@canonical.com> <08c8f447-dcae-83b4-e5b3-a13704a5b158@canonical.com> <4062510.I3n91tvSNF@diego> From: Krzysztof Kozlowski In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-samsung-soc@vger.kernel.org On 06/11/2021 21:13, Arnd Bergmann wrote: > On Sat, Nov 6, 2021 at 8:33 PM Heiko Stübner wrote: >> Am Samstag, 6. November 2021, 19:20:05 CET schrieb Krzysztof Kozlowski: >>> On 05/11/2021 18:49, Cedric Roux wrote: >>>> >>>> Anyway, there is at least one s3c2440 server on Earth powered >>>> by the linux kernel. Now you know! :) >>> >>> Thanks for coming back! We will see how much of feedback we gather. >> >> I do believe all (or at least most) of s3c24xx could run with a devicetree >> base with core peripherals enabled. >> >> So one possible alternative way could be to just deprecate (and then drop) >> all the board-files + their platform-data parts in mach-s3c. > > Yes, and this would be similar to what we've done for mach-imx and > mach-omap2 in the past. > > However, I think the Cragganmore/Speyside board that Mark mentioned > is not in the category of easily converted machines, so leaving only the > DT-enabled machines around would not help him. > > If this is actually the case, one other possibility would be to remove > all the board files except for that one, in the hope that the transformation > (even a partial one) to DT becomes easier when there is no risk of > breaking other machines. Dropping board files would be a nice step but only a half-way, because we could not remove the S3C support from the drivers. The platform to stay should have either: 1. real users in the production who need updates or 2. hackers who have hardware, like to play with it and will do the testing/development. In the second case (the hackers) having only the hardware but not testing or running newest kernels does not revive the platform from the almost-dead stage. 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