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From: Harry Yoo <harry@kernel.org>
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	linux-rt-devel@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 05/16] mm/page_alloc: unify __alloc_frozen_pages[_nolock]_noprof()
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2026 11:10:03 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3beb08a2-d1ce-478c-bd10-9434b417752d@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DJMJIZGFZHEQ.3IIRFIZYFGB6O@linux.dev>



On 7/1/26 1:56 AM, Brendan Jackman wrote:
> On Tue Jun 30, 2026 at 3:34 PM UTC, Vlastimil Babka (SUSE) wrote:
>> On 6/30/26 15:36, Harry Yoo wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/29/26 10:11 PM, Brendan Jackman wrote:
>>>> Currently the core allocator code is controlled by ALLOC_NOLOCK, but the
>>>> main entry point function is significantly different from the normal
>>>> __alloc_frozen_pages_nolock(), this is tiring when reading the code.
>>>>
>>>> Plumb the ALLOC_NOLOCK control one layer up in the call stack: create
>>>> an alloc_flags argument to __alloc_frozen_pages_nolock() (which is only
>>>> exposed to mm/) and then turn the nolock variant into a thin wrapper
>>>> that just sets that flag (as well as handling NUMA_NO_NODE, similar to
>>>> how some of the wrappers in gfp.h do).
>>>>
>>>> Rationale that this doesn't change anything:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Simple bits: A bunch of the nolock-specific handling is just moved to
>>>>    the new alloc_order_allowed(), alloc_trylock_allowed() and
>>>>    gfp_trylock.
>>>
>>> Right.
>>>
>>>> 2. __alloc_frozen_pages_noprof() has some extra logic that wasn't
>>>>    previously in the nolock variant:
>>>>
>>>>    a. Application of gfp_allowed_mask; this only affects early boot, and
>>>>       only flags that affect the slowpath get changed here.
>>>
>>> gfp_allowed_mask clears __GFP_RECLAIM, and that means now allocations
>>> with GFP_KERNEL during early boot would see
>>> gfpflags_allow_spinning() = false.
>>
>> Is it a problem though? non-nolock allocations were affected before (the
>> masking existed for those already) and will be affected now the same, and
>> _nolock() allocations don't pass __GFP_RECLAIM in the first place, so the
>> masking can't affect them?
>
> This was my thinking too.

Oh! You guys are right :) I was confused.

>>> The helper is not used in in the page allocator, but used in
>>> memcg/stackdepot/page_owner.
>>>
>>>>    b. Application of current_gfp_context() - also only affects the
>>>>       slowpath
>>>
>>> PF_MEMALLOC_PIN affects the fast path, but ALLOC_NOLOCK users
>>> won't be affected.
>>
>> And it wouldn't be wrong if they were? It only clears __GFP_MOVABLE?

Nothing wrong, but wanted to mention things that were not mentioned in
the changelog as it argues there's no functional change intended.

>>> What about alloc_flags_nofragment/nonblocking()?
>>
>> ALLOC_NOFRAGMENT due to e.g. defrag_mode could be a problem indeed, if
>> there's no slowpath. Make ALLOC_NOLOCK override it?
> 
> Yeah calling alloc_flags_nofragment() here is a bug in the patch,
> and Sashiko also complained: 
> 
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260629142921.9A05A1F000E9@smtp.kernel.org/
> 
> Like I said in the reply to that thread I think maybe we _do_ want to
> set ALLOC_NOFRAGMENT for nolock allocations? But, that is a functional
> change, it doesn't belong in this series.

I don't think it was intentional to bypass ALLOC_NOFRAGMENT for nolock
allocations. But yeah that's a functional change.

>> nonblocking() is probably fine?
> 
> Yeah, I believe this is fine.

Agreed.

-- 
Cheers,
Harry / Hyeonggon


  reply	other threads:[~2026-07-01  2:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-29 13:11 [PATCH v3 00/16] mm: Some cleanups for page allocator APIs Brendan Jackman
2026-06-29 13:11 ` [PATCH v3 01/16] mm/page_alloc: rename ALLOC_TRYLOCK -> ALLOC_NOLOCK Brendan Jackman
2026-06-30 12:27   ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-29 13:11 ` [PATCH v3 02/16] mm/page_alloc: some renames to clarify alloc_flags scopes Brendan Jackman
2026-06-30 12:38   ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-30 17:25     ` Brendan Jackman
2026-07-01 16:41   ` JP Kobryn
2026-06-29 13:11 ` [PATCH v3 03/16] mm: name some args in a function declaration Brendan Jackman
2026-06-30 12:43   ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-29 13:11 ` [PATCH v3 04/16] mm: Split out internal page_alloc.h Brendan Jackman
2026-06-29 14:16   ` sashiko-bot
2026-06-30 13:54   ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-29 13:11 ` [PATCH v3 05/16] mm/page_alloc: unify __alloc_frozen_pages[_nolock]_noprof() Brendan Jackman
2026-06-29 14:29   ` sashiko-bot
2026-06-29 15:27     ` Brendan Jackman
2026-06-30 13:36   ` Harry Yoo
2026-06-30 15:34     ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-30 16:56       ` Brendan Jackman
2026-07-01  2:10         ` Harry Yoo [this message]
2026-06-30 17:04     ` Brendan Jackman
2026-07-01  2:21       ` Harry Yoo
2026-07-01  8:40         ` Brendan Jackman
2026-06-30 16:16   ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-30 18:47     ` Brendan Jackman
2026-06-29 13:11 ` [PATCH v3 06/16] mm/page_alloc: relax GFP WARN in nolock allocs Brendan Jackman
2026-06-30 13:52   ` Harry Yoo
2026-06-30 16:42   ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-29 13:11 ` [PATCH v3 07/16] mm: move some stuff to mm/page_alloc.h Brendan Jackman
2026-06-30 16:42   ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-29 13:11 ` [PATCH v3 08/16] perf/x86/intel: Use higher-level allocator API Brendan Jackman
2026-07-01  7:50   ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-29 13:11 ` [PATCH v3 09/16] KVM: VMX: " Brendan Jackman
2026-06-29 15:31   ` -EXT-[PATCH " Soderlund, David
2026-07-01  7:50   ` [PATCH " Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-29 13:11 ` [PATCH v3 10/16] x86/virt: " Brendan Jackman
2026-07-01  7:51   ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-29 13:12 ` [PATCH v3 11/16] sgi-xp: " Brendan Jackman
2026-06-29 15:04   ` sashiko-bot
2026-06-29 18:47   ` Steve Wahl
2026-07-01  7:52   ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-07-01  8:51     ` Brendan Jackman
2026-06-29 13:12 ` [PATCH v3 12/16] net/funeth: Switch to " Brendan Jackman
2026-07-01  7:53   ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-29 13:12 ` [PATCH v3 13/16] mm: Remove __alloc_pages_node() Brendan Jackman
2026-06-29 15:27   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-01  7:54   ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-29 13:12 ` [PATCH v3 14/16] mm: Move __alloc_pages() to mm/page_alloc.h Brendan Jackman
2026-07-01  8:08   ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-29 13:12 ` [PATCH v3 15/16] mm: replace __GFP_NO_CODETAG with ALLOC_NO_CODETAG Brendan Jackman
2026-06-29 15:56   ` sashiko-bot
2026-06-30  4:34     ` Hao Ge
2026-06-30  1:55   ` Hao Ge
2026-06-30 10:10     ` Brendan Jackman
2026-07-01  1:47       ` Hao Ge
2026-07-01  1:52         ` Zi Yan
2026-06-30 12:01     ` Brendan Jackman
2026-07-01  8:30   ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-29 13:12 ` [PATCH v3 16/16] mm: remove the __GFP_NO_OBJ_EXT flag Brendan Jackman
2026-06-29 16:02   ` sashiko-bot
2026-06-30 10:04     ` Brendan Jackman
2026-07-01  8:32   ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-07-01  9:10     ` Brendan Jackman
2026-06-29 14:00 ` [PATCH v3 00/16] mm: Some cleanups for page allocator APIs Mike Rapoport
2026-06-29 14:30   ` Brendan Jackman
2026-06-29 15:05     ` Brendan Jackman

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