From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from gabe.freedesktop.org (gabe.freedesktop.org [131.252.210.177]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5A69CC52D73 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2024 07:58:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gabe.freedesktop.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gabe.freedesktop.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 143A010E683; Thu, 8 Aug 2024 07:58:01 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: gabe.freedesktop.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; secure) header.d=mailbox.org header.i=@mailbox.org header.b="mRmjICj0"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: from mout-p-202.mailbox.org (mout-p-202.mailbox.org [80.241.56.172]) by gabe.freedesktop.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1B5AE10E683; Thu, 8 Aug 2024 07:57:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp102.mailbox.org (smtp102.mailbox.org [IPv6:2001:67c:2050:b231:465::102]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by mout-p-202.mailbox.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4WffXz4Qytz9slv; Thu, 8 Aug 2024 09:57:55 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mailbox.org; s=mail20150812; t=1723103875; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=zzZFMfNuViTfYHwErDY5YyAjZNT6A7h+prXOvsPN5Wk=; b=mRmjICj00ijZHMKicvNtcdbgW3F4At4Vy+l6gTzgbEmHoaJ77xFit2rpUeYRO23tuL0ro/ 2hGA5tAPaGZdPlBI3BXsgLvaPMHYMxxsluIg65WSdIpO8mHtKU7w9NS8J3G2cIUEkjqbgg 3PWqib532ZU2JxgFOiPowwlbVwbZc7ujle8zwK3vqe4QxbRVMJUKpuK76NemhAPR1rsfeh UElJ2l8YsW9/610oo9212/Mv1cFHTPoGdZ8hHg6Wm0pYaQABVloMRz1asJNXjeqoiP/SvE G6Wl5u/wIVzobY4KGtR0VwSFD0WXpzbYoZC2kj4B9pY6qarIx415KsNEhPMC4Q== Message-ID: <3c887552-282d-403d-8581-4cbcd8ad9069@mailbox.org> Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2024 09:57:52 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [RFC] amdgpu: Add a context flag to disable implicit sync To: Joshua Ashton , amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org, Faith Ekstrand , dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org Cc: Faith Ekstrand , Alex Deucher , =?UTF-8?Q?Christian_K=C3=B6nig?= , David Airlie , =?UTF-8?Q?Michel_D=C3=A4nzer?= , Bas Nieuwenhuizen References: <20240807153941.3668940-1-faith.ekstrand@collabora.com> From: =?UTF-8?Q?Michel_D=C3=A4nzer?= Content-Language: en-CA, de-CH-frami In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MBO-RS-META: r8a6xjyz36uf8thdcrw3txoof9yj5bzn X-MBO-RS-ID: f72af90d3347ddf28ed X-BeenThere: amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for AMD gfx List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: amd-gfx-bounces@lists.freedesktop.org Sender: "amd-gfx" On 2024-08-07 21:23, Joshua Ashton wrote: > I was thinking about this more recently. I was initially considering "maybe this should be a per-BO import," but I couldn't think of anything in the GL model that would actually benefit given its not "true" bindless and there's no update-after-bind there. > > Worth others more familiar with GL asking that question to themselves also. I am definitely not totally up on what's possible there. > > Overall, I think I am OK with this approach, even though I think mixing implicit and explicit sync is gross, and I want the pain that is implicit sync to just go away forever. :-) It can never go away, at least not in the drivers which have ever supported it. We can never break compatibility. -- Earthling Michel Dänzer \ GNOME / Xwayland / Mesa developer https://redhat.com \ Libre software enthusiast