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From: "Edgecombe, Rick P" <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>
To: "seanjc@google.com" <seanjc@google.com>,
	"Zhao, Yan Y" <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>
Cc: "kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"pbonzini@redhat.com" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Annapurve, Vishal" <vannapurve@google.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"michael.roth@amd.com" <michael.roth@amd.com>,
	"Weiny, Ira" <ira.weiny@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 09/12] KVM: TDX: Fold tdx_mem_page_record_premap_cnt() into its sole caller
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2025 03:13:11 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3dc6f577250021f0bda6948dedb4df277f902877.camel@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aK9Xqy0W1ghonWUL@google.com>

On Wed, 2025-08-27 at 12:08 -0700, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > e.g., Before KVM_TDX_FINALIZE_VM, if userspace performs a zap after the
> > TDH.MEM.PAGE.ADD, the page will be removed from the S-EPT. The count of
> > nr_premapped will not change after the successful TDH.MEM.RANGE.BLOCK and
> > TDH.MEM.PAGE.REMOVE.
> 
> Eww.  It would be nice to close that hole, but I suppose it's futile, e.g. the
> underlying problem is unexpectedly removing pages from the initial, whether
> the
> VMM is doing stupid things before vs. after FINALIZE doesn't really matter.
> 
> > As a result, the TD will still run with uninitialized memory.
> 
> No?  Because BLOCK+REMOVE means there are no valid S-EPT mappings.  There's a
> "hole" that the guest might not expect, but that hole will trigger an EPT
> violation and only get "filled" if the guest explicitly accepts an AUG'd page.

Ah, I just responded on another patch. I wonder if we can get rid of the premap
cnt.

> 
> Side topic, why does KVM tolerate tdh_mem_page_add() failure?  IIUC, playing
> nice with tdh_mem_page_add() failure necessitates both the
> tdx_is_sept_zap_err_due_to_premap() craziness and the check in
> tdx_td_finalize()
> that all pending pages have been consumed.

Reasons that tdh_mem_page_add() could get BUSY:
1. If two vCPU's tried to tdh_mem_page_add() the same gpa at the same time  they
could contend the SEPT entry lock
2. If one vCPU tries to tdh_mem_page_add() while the other zaps (i.e.
tdh_mem_range_block()).

I guess since we don't hold MMU lock while we tdh_mem_page_add(), 2 is a
possibility.

> 
> What reasonable use case is there for gracefully handling tdh_mem_page_add()
> failure?
> 
> If there is a need to handle failure, I gotta imagine it's only for the -EBUSY
> case.  And if it's only for -EBUSY, why can't that be handled by retrying in
> tdx_vcpu_init_mem_region()?  If tdx_vcpu_init_mem_region() guarantees that all
> pages mapped into the S-EPT are ADDed, then it can assert that there are no
> pending pages when it completes (even if it "fails"), and similarly
> tdx_td_finalize() can KVM_BUG_ON/WARN_ON the number of pending pages being
> non-zero.

Maybe we could take mmu write lock for the retry of tdh_mem_page_add(). Or maybe
even for a single call of it, until someone wants to parallelize the operation. 

  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-28  3:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-27  0:05 [RFC PATCH 00/12] KVM: x86/mmu: TDX post-populate cleanups Sean Christopherson
2025-08-27  0:05 ` [RFC PATCH 01/12] KVM: TDX: Drop PROVE_MMU=y sanity check on to-be-populated mappings Sean Christopherson
2025-08-27  8:14   ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-28  0:37   ` Ira Weiny
2025-08-28  2:13   ` Huang, Kai
2025-08-27  0:05 ` [RFC PATCH 02/12] KVM: x86/mmu: Add dedicated API to map guest_memfd pfn into TDP MMU Sean Christopherson
2025-08-27  8:25   ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-28  0:54     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-28  1:26       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-28  6:23         ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-28 19:40           ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-29  1:16             ` Yan Zhao
2025-09-01  0:39               ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-28  6:55       ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-28  0:40   ` Ira Weiny
2025-08-28  1:51     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-28 19:57       ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-27  0:05 ` [RFC PATCH 03/12] Revert "KVM: x86/tdp_mmu: Add a helper function to walk down the TDP MMU" Sean Christopherson
2025-08-27  0:05 ` [RFC PATCH 04/12] KVM: x86/mmu: Rename kvm_tdp_map_page() to kvm_tdp_prefault_page() Sean Christopherson
2025-08-28  2:01   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-28 18:50     ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-28 19:04       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-27  0:05 ` [RFC PATCH 05/12] KVM: TDX: Drop superfluous page pinning in S-EPT management Sean Christopherson
2025-08-27  8:33   ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-28  2:05     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-28 20:16       ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-28  0:36   ` Ira Weiny
2025-08-28  7:08     ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-28 15:54       ` Ira Weiny
2025-08-28  2:45   ` Huang, Kai
2025-08-27  0:05 ` [RFC PATCH 06/12] KVM: TDX: Return -EIO, not -EINVAL, on a KVM_BUG_ON() condition Sean Christopherson
2025-08-27  8:39   ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-27 17:26     ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-28  2:11   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-28 19:21     ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-28 20:13       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-28 21:00         ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-28 21:19           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-28 21:34             ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-28 15:03   ` Ira Weiny
2025-08-27  0:05 ` [RFC PATCH 07/12] KVM: TDX: Avoid a double-KVM_BUG_ON() in tdx_sept_zap_private_spte() Sean Christopherson
2025-08-28  2:19   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-28 14:50     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-29  1:10       ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-28 15:02   ` Ira Weiny
2025-08-27  0:05 ` [RFC PATCH 08/12] KVM: TDX: Use atomic64_dec_return() instead of a poor equivalent Sean Christopherson
2025-08-28  2:56   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-28  6:48     ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-28 19:14       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-28 22:33         ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-28 23:18           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-28 15:03   ` Ira Weiny
2025-08-27  0:05 ` [RFC PATCH 09/12] KVM: TDX: Fold tdx_mem_page_record_premap_cnt() into its sole caller Sean Christopherson
2025-08-27  9:02   ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-27 19:08     ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-28  3:13       ` Edgecombe, Rick P [this message]
2025-08-28  5:56         ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-28 19:08           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-28  5:43       ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-28 17:00         ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-28 18:52           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-28 20:26             ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-28 21:33               ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-28 21:57                 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-28 23:17                   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-29  6:08                   ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-28 22:06                 ` Ira Weiny
2025-08-28 23:17                   ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-29  0:35                     ` Ira Weiny
2025-08-29  6:06                 ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-28 21:44             ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-29  2:42             ` Binbin Wu
2025-08-29  2:31           ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-29  6:33             ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-28 15:30       ` Ira Weiny
2025-08-28 15:28     ` Ira Weiny
2025-08-27  0:05 ` [RFC PATCH 10/12] KVM: TDX: Assert that slots_lock is held when nr_premapped is accessed Sean Christopherson
2025-08-27  0:05 ` [RFC PATCH 11/12] KVM: TDX: Track nr_premapped as an "unsigned long", not an "atomic64_t" Sean Christopherson
2025-08-27  9:12   ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-27  0:05 ` [RFC PATCH 12/12] KVM: TDX: Rename nr_premapped to nr_pending_tdh_mem_page_adds Sean Christopherson
2025-08-27  9:22   ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-28 15:23   ` Ira Weiny
2025-08-27  9:48 ` [RFC PATCH 00/12] KVM: x86/mmu: TDX post-populate cleanups Yan Zhao
2025-08-28 19:01 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-28 23:19   ` Sean Christopherson

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