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Tue, 27 Jun 2023 09:19:03 +0200 Message-ID: <3f9370ff-074a-1a14-fae7-e081d47e628c@web.de> Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2023 09:19:02 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.12.0 To: Dan Carpenter , kernel-janitors@vger.kernel.org, dm-devel@redhat.com References: <20230624230950.2272-3-demi@invisiblethingslab.com> <3241078c-2318-fe1b-33cc-7c33db71b1a6@web.de> <1c1cd489-6d59-00ed-a1f5-497ca532c08d@web.de> From: Markus Elfring In-Reply-To: X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:cGruVG7ep7IrLvpnRKs0j84eH+60d6S/ln4HvvF2jBAArldbTy6 b3zoX5TrDp1G7/7Kg+e7DGYhMVXwoI6TAehdqEXeQ45eW3hPqAtQCHX0pVwXaHUQm/LiNSL N5rqJzlr5jXpe63qOJorUXN2qF7eqfmj63s4FMPBJok/JFYfhQO5Kl2DNiUPPiemPgHI6jW Lhqjq/5zfkfpWSJGvo/1A== UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:4/vx+D5cBQw=;u0l/bVXOFITfEWayPU/bYe+k8zp tJDSPLdJZzKkFkv6MozIsqJWwoEmOfq25e5jbxlBPrqsShnL0oCOv9QAqeybKFa8VmiS6qG3I ETN33StrYZ9kaAg6nsIfk1lXT/zp6DB7u8Zaf6JJyPDukxTiioYRT1RMtngRDHtk6fJ0UtrG2 +fo+Bm4vvEJbNXadDhGD0MqFCf6pbRb1xDsYQ34Du8jTZC9Fh64uUfHwQMpKJc0wzb73y04VD C66b7owefDHQLtjDRWcKIV07FXIZVmm2oZTW+AF2DX9OBgC5di2AV9byOWyy+PEr2ZyQnKhR7 RpBG9QvPxYkH7MZLNtU8BukhcsqwHOuO8GCZs7LOh4pRH6EBWHq2olVapwZ4VlSvas4XL65i7 F78uAugVSdlt7UbVwCjrIGYrXiQe1Yb9kOYzmvJtk2ByFJ7LHNiBkzlOXkfFOcYjDm7CwWONi d9Eq0n8dqASIHieEyHTqqT1UXSt/5qJVKVEt6D80mZxfg5ZNjsw4iRs69ynSIi77lvPqJ2XqV LfQ+zpJ8Vme1fsqpQCx6oP3RJurGqVw9SJwPd8v2Qo57JcW3KG8i3Iu9eSKSKfeE+KrYxpiu1 H8xZtpjOXmJWYWRHyBicsADPpmEH9F8Mg7bMKm6Ska8D9CovdF4OYEt5jITNzcMDra+hkBhpj oGcVERgvZ0aCVcB/AXyQunMSLL+kUgAb2etoJb/rTvbmz+/+Nsp8WHyTnWQQW22OPvpBfUlXG Bu3syDTn+4E8k4SOPGznNuZWTjzwIs6H1oMaS2c7WBYqjEZMkPt0hkuFd6C07LtSD0Ds65R1Y BdhjCI/nHeAuqa2gD0x2cN55Bbvd5mq1fn/44tV5ThusmJPCJGdqk6tgTL3OofoQlp7Rg5cGw 13Uk/AoVCYjw1FEYHme1iy2uB1O6fGh14IHoiU3UqPDAVjBgRVQgtnRvfGAdnww0+Tv8thslZ onPqpQ== X-Mimecast-Impersonation-Protect: Policy=CLT - Impersonation Protection Definition; Similar Internal Domain=false; Similar Monitored External Domain=false; Custom External Domain=false; Mimecast External Domain=false; Newly Observed Domain=false; Internal User Name=false; Custom Display Name List=false; Reply-to Address Mismatch=false; Targeted Threat Dictionary=false; Mimecast Threat Dictionary=false; Custom Threat Dictionary=false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 3.1 on 10.11.54.7 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 10 Jul 2023 06:46:55 +0000 Subject: Re: [dm-devel] [v2 2/4] dm ioctl: Allow userspace to provide expected diskseq X-BeenThere: dm-devel@redhat.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: device-mapper development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Demi Marie Obenour , Mike Snitzer , LKML , Alasdair Kergon Errors-To: dm-devel-bounces@redhat.com Sender: "dm-devel" X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 3.1 on 10.11.54.9 X-Mimecast-Spam-Score: 0 X-Mimecast-Originator: web.de Content-Language: en-GB Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> See also another bit of background information once more: >> [PATCH v2] certs/extract-cert: Fix checkpatch issues >> 2023-06-09 >> https://lore.kernel.org/kernel-janitors/c464c4ee-038c-47bf-857a-b11a89680e82@kadam.mountain/ >> https://lkml.org/lkml/2023/6/9/879 > > Markus, it's not about imperative tense. It's about you wasting > people's time. > > Read the subject again. "Allow userspace to provide expected diskseq". > That is imperative tense. Yes for the patch subject. (Patch/commit descriptions can be adjusted accordingly.) > I have not pointed it out to you because it > just doesn't matter at all. If it's in imperative tense or if it's not > in imperative tense, it doesn't matter. It seems that known development documentation expresses opposite requirements. > You're sending out a lot of messages and quite a few times it looks like > your targeting newbies. I dare to send some change suggestions (or reminders) to various contributors. > One new developer sent me an email privately > who was over the top grateful when I told him he could ignore you. > The guy was like, "I was so puzzled, because it's my first patch > and I didn't know how to respond." Thanks for such information. > This was an experienced programmer > who we want, but he was new to the kernel community so he didn't know > if we had bizarre rules or whatever. There is some guidance available already. Development experiences can and will grow further. > I've looked through your patches that have recently been merged. Thanks for another look. > Some of those maintainers know that you are banned Yes, of course. > and that your patches are not getting any review from the mailing list. Review approaches are generally improvable. > We are really trying to be nice and to work around your situation. Can remaining communication difficulties be resolved better anyhow? > But don't start bothering newbies who don't know what the situation is. I do not distinguish some of my patch feedback on the contributor category. Regards, Markus -- dm-devel mailing list dm-devel@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/dm-devel