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From: Andy Lutomirski <luto@myrealbox.com>
To: Tim Hockin <thockin@hockin.org>
Cc: Nick Piggin <piggin@cyberone.com.au>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@au1.ibm.com>,
	vatsa@in.ibm.com, lhcs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: CPU Hotplug: Hotplug Script And SIGPWR
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 09:49:39 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <400D6A33.6020108@myrealbox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fa.frjqvfo.170g8hq@ifi.uio.no>

Tim Hockin wrote:

> On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 05:43:59PM +1100, Nick Piggin wrote:
> 
>>>I think the sanest thing for a CPU removal is to migrate everything off the
>>>processor in question, move unrunnable tasks into TASK_UNRUNNABLE state,
>>>then notify /sbin/hotplug.  The hotplug script can then find and handle the
>>>unrunnable tasks.  No SIGPWR grossness needed.
>>>
>>
>>Seems less robust and more ad hoc than SIGPWR, however.
> 
> 
> Disagree.  SIGPWR will kill any process that doesn't catch it.  That's
> policy.  It seems more robust to let the hotplug script decide what to do.
> If it wants to kill each unrunnable task with SIGPWR, it can.  But if it
> wants to let them live, it can.

This seems like a problem that a lot of power-management issues have. 
(At some point, linux may want to suspend itself after inactivity.  Both 
RT tasks and some interactive tasks may want to supress that.)  Why not 
add a SIGPM signal, which is only sent if handles, and which indicates 
that PM event is happening.  Give usermode some method of responding to 
it (e.g. handler returns a value, or a new syscall), and let 
/sbin/hotplug handle events for tasks that either ignore the signal or 
responded that they were uninterested.  This seems be close to optimal 
for every case I can think of.

--Andy


       reply	other threads:[~2004-01-20 17:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <fa.f37o48p.1io5q5@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.frjqvfo.170g8hq@ifi.uio.no>
2004-01-20 17:49   ` Andy Lutomirski [this message]
2004-01-21  4:33     ` CPU Hotplug: Hotplug Script And SIGPWR Rusty Russell
     [not found] <20040116174446.A2820@in.ibm.com>
2004-01-20  5:44 ` Rusty Russell
2004-01-20  6:33   ` Tim Hockin
2004-01-20  6:43     ` Nick Piggin
2004-01-20  6:52       ` Tim Hockin
2004-01-20  7:11         ` Nick Piggin
2004-01-20  7:30           ` Tim Hockin
2004-01-20  7:45             ` Nick Piggin
2004-01-20  7:54               ` Tim Hockin
2004-01-20  8:14                 ` Nick Piggin
2004-01-20  8:29                   ` Tim Hockin
2004-01-20  8:37                     ` Nick Piggin
2004-01-20  8:43                       ` Tim Hockin
2004-01-21  4:06                         ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2004-01-21  4:14                           ` Nick Piggin
2004-01-21  5:09                             ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2004-01-21  7:08                               ` Tim Hockin
2004-01-21 15:07                                 ` Matthias Urlichs
2004-01-22  5:29                                 ` Rusty Russell
2004-01-21  7:09                             ` Tim Hockin
2004-01-21  7:31                               ` Nick Piggin
2004-01-21  7:42                                 ` Tim Hockin
2004-01-21  8:11                             ` Rusty Russell
2004-01-21  5:07                           ` Rusty Russell
2004-01-20  8:41                   ` Stefan Smietanowski
2004-01-20  8:49                     ` Nick Piggin
2004-01-20  9:12                       ` Tim Hockin
2004-01-21  0:00                 ` Rusty Russell
2004-01-20 23:51         ` Rusty Russell
2004-01-20  7:45     ` Rusty Russell
2004-01-20  8:37       ` Tim Hockin
2004-01-20  9:29         ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2004-01-21  0:12         ` Rusty Russell

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