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From: Matt <dirtbird@ntlworld.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: VFS locking: f_pos thread-safe ?
Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2004 09:09:53 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <402359E1.6000007@ntlworld.com> (raw)

> Werner Almesberger <wa@almesberger.net> wrote:
>>
>> "[...] read( ) [...] shall be atomic with respect to each other
>>   in the effects specified in IEEE Std. 1003.1-200x when they
>>   operate on regular files. If two threads each call one of these
>>   functions, each call shall either see all of the specified
>>   effects of the other call, or none of them."

> Whichever thread finishes its read last gets to update f_pos.

> I'm struggling a bit to understand what they're calling for there.  If
> thread A enters a read and then shortly afterwards thread B enters the
> read, does thread B see an f_pos which starts out at the beginning of A's
> read, or the end of it?

> Similar questions apply as the threads exit their read()s.

> Either way, there's no way in which we should serialise concurrent readers.
> That would really suck for sensible apps which are using pread64().

Surely, we can just serialise read() (and related) calls that modify f_pos?
Since pread() doesn't modify f_pos we shouldn't need to serialise those calls
no? Also doesn't spec make the same claims about other calls that modify
f_pos such as write()?

	Matt






             reply	other threads:[~2004-02-06  9:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-02-06  9:09 Matt [this message]
2004-02-06  9:16 ` VFS locking: f_pos thread-safe ? Andrew Morton
2004-02-06  9:26   ` Matt
2004-02-06  9:35     ` Andrew Morton
2004-02-06 10:19       ` Matthias Urlichs
2004-02-06 11:18         ` viro
2004-02-06 18:59           ` Matthias Urlichs
2004-02-06 19:54             ` Werner Almesberger
2004-02-08 15:58             ` Kai Henningsen
2004-02-19 15:14               ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]         ` <20040206101941.4cd9c882.shemminger@osdl.org>
2004-02-06 18:47           ` Matthias Urlichs
2004-02-06 13:50       ` Werner Almesberger
2004-02-06 13:56         ` viro
2004-02-06 14:24           ` Werner Almesberger
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-02-06  7:12 Werner Almesberger
2004-02-06  7:55 ` Andrew Morton
2004-02-06 18:37 ` Joel Becker
2004-02-06 19:05   ` Matthias Urlichs
2004-02-07  1:35     ` Joel Becker
2004-02-06 20:09   ` Werner Almesberger
2004-02-06 20:56     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-02-07  0:55       ` Werner Almesberger
2004-02-06 20:54 ` Andries Brouwer
2004-02-07 23:45   ` Werner Almesberger

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