From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S265273AbUBIRYM (ORCPT ); Mon, 9 Feb 2004 12:24:12 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S265276AbUBIRYM (ORCPT ); Mon, 9 Feb 2004 12:24:12 -0500 Received: from terminus.zytor.com ([63.209.29.3]:17559 "EHLO terminus.zytor.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S265273AbUBIRYK (ORCPT ); Mon, 9 Feb 2004 12:24:10 -0500 Message-ID: <4027C22E.2030409@zytor.com> Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 09:23:58 -0800 From: "H. Peter Anvin" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6b) Gecko/20040105 X-Accept-Language: en, sv, es, fr MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andi Kleen CC: Miquel van Smoorenburg , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Does anyone still care about BSD ptys? References: <20040209100940.GF21151@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk.suse.lists.linux.kernel> <20040209104729.GA19401@traveler.cistron.net.suse.lists.linux.kernel> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Andi Kleen wrote: > Miquel van Smoorenburg writes: > >>Well, nothing really, but removing BSD style support in the 2.6 series >>now will break existing installations. Doing it in 2.7 would be fine. > > It will still break existing installations even in 2.7. And breaking > early user space is especially nasty to recover from. Somehow I > cannot believe keeping them around for compatibility is a unduly > burden. Please don't remove them. > It's quite possible that their existence block sanitizing the pty code, or more specifically, the pty support in the generic tty code. I'll see what I can do about it; it's possible it'll just fall out nicely in the end, but I really have no desire to jump through hoops to preserve what is a fundamentally broken legancy interface. -hpa