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From: Benno Senoner <sbenno@gardena.net>
To: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
Subject: Re: The obsolence of OSS, Was: big smile
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 22:54:58 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <403BC832.4080404@gardena.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0402241536450.1883@pnote.perex-int.cz>

for those that are too lazy to browse the forums:

http://www.4front-tech.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=25
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.... We hope you can now show your ALSA friends how much better your OSS 
drivers sound and actually tell them that OSS isn't all that "old and 
obsolete". The fact that we can do a ALSA emulation implies that OSS is 
far more advanced than ALSA people give it credit.  ...
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far more advanced ???
Ok I'd like see Ardour runnnig with multiple 24bit cards, all the 
switches for hardware monitoring etc under OSS.

How about MIDI ? Where is OSS' midi router, is there an ossconnect 
utility ? (of course this a sarcastic comment :) )


http://www.4front-tech.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4
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.... One of our main observations is that the "driver" part of ALSA is 
actually just a 1:1 clone of OSS's low level driver interface but 
everything is rewritten from scratch. We have been able to get ALSA work 
with the low level drivers of (commercial) OSS without any changes to 
OSS itself. Everything can be done in a small module that is loaded 
after executing soundon and loading ALSA's snd-pcm module. This module 
will be released under GPL during this spring.

After this it will be possible to use ALSA applications together with 
OSS. So if you are an OSS customer you don't need to leave OSS to use 
ALSA. You can use proven OSS drivers and still be able to run the few 
ALSA only applications.
....
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The FEW ALSA only applications ??

Only a fool would write a new linux audio app that does not use ALSA, 
especially apps that need MIDI.
Ok jackd will probably become the "audio interface" of choice, but jackd 
using ALSA is more powerful than in the OSS case,
(talking of pure PCM based apps, with PCM/MIDI apps the advantage is 
even more apparent).

Not to mention that most distros once they will ship kernel 2.6 they 
will probably use ALSA as default because users
are demanding multimedia features like MIDI, support of highend cards, 
jackd support etc.
So this will slowly but surely render OSS totally obsolete. I'm sorry 
but that's the truth that you cannot escape from.
Just like Micosoft's share on the desktop will drop considerably over 
time due to linux being more efficient and cheaper :-)

cheers,
Benno
http://www.linuxsampler.org



Jaroslav Kysela wrote:

>http://www.opensound.com/cuckoo.html
>
>:-) No comment, except that some comments are really wrong.
>
>						Jaroslav
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>Linux Kernel Sound Maintainer
>ALSA Project, SuSE Labs
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-02-24 21:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-02-24 14:47 big smile Jaroslav Kysela
2004-02-24 15:19 ` Peter Antypas
2004-02-24 15:21 ` James Courtier-Dutton
2004-02-24 15:28   ` Jaroslav Kysela
2004-02-24 15:58     ` James Courtier-Dutton
2004-02-24 16:43     ` Giuliano Pochini
2004-02-24 16:08   ` Mihai T. Lazarescu
2004-02-24 21:54 ` Benno Senoner [this message]
2004-02-25 11:20   ` Re: The obsolence of OSS, Was: " Adam Tla/lka
2004-02-25 11:40     ` Jan Depner
2004-02-25 11:53     ` Takashi Iwai
2004-02-25 13:20       ` Adam Tla/lka
2004-02-25 17:48       ` Jussi Laako
2004-02-25 18:41         ` Paul Davis
2004-02-25 12:27     ` Måns Rullgård
2004-02-25 18:58       ` Dan Hollis
2004-02-25 13:09     ` Jaroslav Kysela
2004-02-25 13:37       ` Adam Tla/lka
2004-02-25 14:17         ` Paul Davis
2004-02-25 14:50           ` Re: The obsolence of OSS, Was: big smiley Adam Tla/lka
2004-02-25 15:12             ` Takashi Iwai
2004-02-25 15:12             ` Paul Davis
2004-02-25 15:20             ` James Courtier-Dutton
2004-02-25 15:37               ` Paul Davis
2004-02-25 16:03                 ` James Courtier-Dutton
2004-02-25 16:10                   ` Paul Davis
2004-02-25 16:12                   ` Paul Davis
2004-02-25 13:42     ` Re: The obsolence of OSS, Was: big smile James Courtier-Dutton
2004-02-25 14:03     ` Giuliano Pochini
2004-02-25 17:45   ` Jussi Laako

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