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From: Nick Piggin <piggin@cyberone.com.au>
To: Andi Kleen <ak@muc.de>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 2.6.4-mm1
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 10:37:51 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4050F84F.8080005@cyberone.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040311202136.GA59610@colin2.muc.de>

Andi Kleen wrote:

>>>Some kind of SMT scheduler is definitely needed, we have a serious
>>>regression compared to 2.4 here right now. I'm not sure this 
>>>is the right approach though, it seems to be far too complex.
>>>

Andi, I'll agree that the way domains currently get set up is pretty
ugly. Maybe some additional functions or macros could be used to make
this process a bit clearer.

The actual kernel/sched.c code is really not that complex. In some ways
it is *less* complicated than the old numa scheduler because it all goes
through one code path.

It also handles SMT, which is where a bit of complexity is coming from.
The other alternative is shared runqueues which is uglier and less flexible.


>>Well that's discouraging.  I really do want to push this thing along a bit.
>>
>>Yours is the only report of regression of which I am aware.  Is the reason
>>understood?
>>
>
>I think the reason is that it doesn't do balance on clone/fork. The 
>normal scheduler also doesn't do that, but for some reason it still does 
>better on the benchmarks (but worse than the old 2.4 -aa/Intel O(1) HT 
>scheduler)
>
>

There have been a few changes and bug fixes since you last tested.
Maybe that would help.

>>And is anyone developing alternative SMT enhancements?
>>
>
>I thought there was a patch from Ingo Molnar? ("shared runqueue") 
>I must admit I never tried it, just remember seeing the patches.
>

Yep shared runqueues. Ingo and Rusty both had implementations but
they both agreed sched-domains was a better alternative.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-03-11 23:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2004-03-17 23:21 ` 2.6.4-mm1 Andi Kleen
2004-03-11 19:28   ` 2.6.4-mm1 Andrew Morton
2004-03-11 20:21     ` 2.6.4-mm1 Andi Kleen
2004-03-11 20:48       ` 2.6.4-mm1 Andrew Morton
2004-03-11 23:37       ` Nick Piggin [this message]
     [not found] ` <1yxuq-6y6-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
2004-03-17 23:25   ` 2.6.4-mm1 Andi Kleen
2004-03-11 13:45     ` 2.6.4-mm1 Mickael Marchand
2004-03-11 14:48       ` 2.6.4-mm1 Andi Kleen
2004-03-11 15:10         ` 2.6.4-mm1 Mickael Marchand
2004-03-11 15:20           ` 2.6.4-mm1 Andi Kleen
2004-03-11 21:43         ` 2.6.4-mm1 Joe Thornber
2004-03-11 21:57           ` 2.6.4-mm1 Joe Thornber
2004-03-11 21:59           ` 2.6.4-mm1 Joel Becker
2004-03-11 22:02             ` 2.6.4-mm1 Joel Becker
2004-03-11 22:11             ` 2.6.4-mm1 Chris Friesen
2004-03-11 23:37           ` 2.6.4-mm1 Andi Kleen
2004-03-12  8:22             ` 2.6.4-mm1 Joe Thornber
2004-03-12  9:49               ` 2.6.4-mm1 Joe Thornber
2004-03-12 12:11                 ` 2.6.4-mm1 Mickael Marchand
2004-03-12 12:35                   ` 2.6.4-mm1 Joe Thornber
2004-03-12 22:48                   ` 2.6.4-mm1 Hugo Mills
2004-03-11 21:38       ` 2.6.4-mm1 Joe Thornber
2004-03-11 23:33         ` 2.6.4-mm1 Andi Kleen
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2004-03-19  5:58                 ` 2.6.4-mm1 Andi Kleen
2004-03-12 13:49                   ` 2.6.4-mm1 Joe Thornber
2004-03-12 14:03                     ` 2.6.4-mm1 Andi Kleen
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     [not found]                   ` <1yU7Z-624-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
2004-03-19  6:00                     ` 2.6.4-mm1 Andi Kleen
2004-03-14 16:13 2.6.4-mm1 Nakajima, Jun
2004-03-14 17:04 ` 2.6.4-mm1 Grzegorz Kulewski
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-03-14  8:04 2.6.4-mm1 Nakajima, Jun
2004-03-14  8:31 ` 2.6.4-mm1 Andrew Morton
2004-03-12 23:04 2.6.4-mm1 Subodh Shrivastava
2004-03-12 23:55 ` 2.6.4-mm1 Andrew Morton
2004-03-13 13:12   ` 2.6.4-mm1 SUBODH SHRIVASTAVA
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2004-03-12 15:48 ` 2.6.4-mm1 Len Brown
2004-03-12  3:04 2.6.4-mm1 Nakajima, Jun
2004-03-12  3:14 ` 2.6.4-mm1 Andi Kleen
2004-03-12  4:24   ` 2.6.4-mm1 Nick Piggin
2004-03-12 14:14     ` 2.6.4-mm1 Andi Kleen
2004-03-12 14:38       ` 2.6.4-mm1 Nick Piggin
2004-03-11 18:46 2.6.4-mm1 Nakajima, Jun
2004-03-11  7:31 2.6.4-mm1 Andrew Morton
2004-03-11  8:26 ` 2.6.4-mm1 Jens Axboe
2004-03-11  8:30 ` 2.6.4-mm1 Andrew Morton
2004-03-11  9:34   ` 2.6.4-mm1 Matthias Urlichs
2004-03-11  9:17 ` 2.6.4-mm1 Mickael Marchand
2004-03-11 11:06   ` 2.6.4-mm1 Andrew Morton
2004-03-11 11:22     ` 2.6.4-mm1 Anton Blanchard
2004-03-11 12:23     ` 2.6.4-mm1 Mickael Marchand
2004-03-11 13:40 ` 2.6.4-mm1 jlnance
2004-03-11 19:25   ` 2.6.4-mm1 Mike Fedyk
2004-03-11 22:22   ` 2.6.4-mm1 Andrew Morton
2004-03-11 13:49 ` 2.6.4-mm1 Anton Blanchard
2004-03-11 23:29   ` 2.6.4-mm1 Nick Piggin
2004-03-12  2:03     ` 2.6.4-mm1 Nick Piggin
2004-03-12  2:12       ` 2.6.4-mm1 Anton Blanchard
2004-03-12  5:11       ` 2.6.4-mm1 Anton Blanchard
2004-03-11 13:52 ` 2.6.4-mm1 Anton Blanchard
2004-03-11 15:23 ` 2.6.4-mm1 William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-11 15:54   ` 2.6.4-mm1 William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-11 17:06 ` 2.6.4-mm1 Redeeman
2004-03-11 17:53   ` 2.6.4-mm1 Norberto Bensa
2004-03-11 18:09     ` 2.6.4-mm1 Andrew Morton
2004-03-11 18:14       ` 2.6.4-mm1 Redeeman
2004-03-11 18:46         ` 2.6.4-mm1 Andrew Morton
2004-03-11 20:58           ` 2.6.4-mm1 Redeeman
2004-03-11 21:10             ` 2.6.4-mm1 Redeeman
2004-03-11 18:22       ` 2.6.4-mm1 Norberto Bensa
2004-03-11 20:29   ` 2.6.4-mm1 Felipe Alfaro Solana
2004-03-12  1:03 ` 2.6.4-mm1 Neil Brown
2004-03-12  1:22   ` 2.6.4-mm1 Andrew Morton
2004-03-12  5:48     ` 2.6.4-mm1 Neil Brown
2004-03-12  7:50       ` 2.6.4-mm1 Andrew Morton
2004-03-13 10:25         ` 2.6.4-mm1 Neil Brown
2004-03-12  9:04 ` 2.6.4-mm1 Helge Hafting

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