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From: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: viro@math.psu.edu (Alexander Viro), kaos@ocs.com.au (Keith Owens),
	sirmorcant@morcant.org (Morgan Collins [Ax0n]),
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Tainted Modules Help Notices
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 19:18:30 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4058.1002737910@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E15rNBu-0008To-00@the-village.bc.nu>
In-Reply-To: <E15rNBu-0008To-00@the-village.bc.nu>


alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk said:
>  Subject to patent holdings. If you hold a patent on the BSD code you
> can't GPL it

That's not wonderfully clear. They don't have to _restrict_ your rights -
just neglect to grant you the right to use the algorithm in question, which
you didn't have in the first place anyway.

> nor is it GPL compatible. 

I believe that statement is as true as the assertion that nobody, even in
the Free World, can write GPL'd code which use the algorithms covered by 
the patent.

Either way, I didn't think that a political stance against patents was the 
point of the kernel tainting code - I thought it was about maintainability.

>  The problem we have is that "BSD without advertisment" can be claimed
> by almost any binary only module whose author doesnt include source or
> let it out fo their company ever 

GPL can also be claimed by a module whose author doesn't publish either the
source or the binary, or who charges lots and lots of money for shipping the
binary and ships the source with it with a 'request' that the recipient
doesn't then give it away for free.

But if we're not going to allow BSD-licensed modules to be loaded without 
tainting the kernel, we shouldn't mark any of the code distributed with the 
kernel as BSD-licensed - we should make it all "Dual BSD/GPL" instead.

It might also be useful to have a 'Dual GPL/Other' option, for covering the 
other randomly dual-licensed code (like JFFS2). 

--
dwmw2



  reply	other threads:[~2001-10-10 18:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-10-10  8:06 Tainted Modules Help Notices Morgan Collins [Ax0n]
2001-10-10  8:20 ` David Woodhouse
2001-10-10  8:24   ` Morgan Collins [Ax0n]
2001-10-10  8:31   ` David Woodhouse
2001-10-10 13:50   ` Keith Owens
2001-10-10 13:59     ` Alexander Viro
2001-10-10 14:01       ` Keith Owens
2001-10-10 17:30       ` Alan Cox
2001-10-10 18:18         ` David Woodhouse [this message]
2001-10-10 20:06           ` Concerned Programmer
2001-10-10 20:28             ` Morgan Collins [Ax0n]
2001-10-10 21:28               ` Keith Owens
2001-10-10 22:03                 ` Anthony DeRobertis
2001-10-11  7:27                 ` David Woodhouse
2001-10-10 21:17             ` Alan Cox
2001-10-10 23:02               ` Juan Quintela
2001-10-10 23:28                 ` Andreas Dilger
2001-10-10 22:29                   ` Rob Landley
2001-10-11  2:48                     ` 2.4.11 UDF Morgan Collins [Ax0n]
2001-10-11  3:26                       ` Craig Whitmore
2001-10-11  8:50               ` Tainted Modules Help Notices Andreas Ferber
2001-10-11  9:25                 ` Alan Cox
2001-10-11  9:35                   ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-10-11  9:41                     ` Pekka Pietikäinen
2001-10-11  9:48                       ` Syed Mohammad Talha
2001-10-11 10:09                       ` Concerned Programmer
2001-10-11 10:37                         ` Alan Cox
2001-10-11 22:42                           ` David Schwartz
2001-10-11 23:40                             ` John Alvord
2001-10-12  1:12                               ` David Schwartz
2001-10-12  1:32                                 ` Robert Love
2001-10-11 12:10                       ` James Sutherland
2001-10-10 14:13     ` David Woodhouse
2001-10-10 14:18       ` Alexander Viro
2001-10-10 13:10 ` Alan Cox
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-10-10 14:06 Bonds, Deanna
2001-10-10 14:24 ` Arjan van de Ven

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