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From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: "Justin T. Gibbs" <gibbs@scsiguy.com>,
	linux-raid@vger.kernel.org,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: "Enhanced" MD code avaible for review
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 15:02:38 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4058AEDE.10305@pobox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040317193206.A17987@infradead.org>

Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 17, 2004 at 02:18:25PM -0500, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> 
>>>	o Allow fully pluggable meta-data modules
>>
>>yep, needed
> 
> 
> Well, this is pretty much the EVMS route we all heavily argued against.
> Most of the metadata shouldn't be visible in the kernel at all.

_some_ metadata is required at runtime, and must be in the kernel.  I 
agree that a lot of configuration doesn't necessarily need to be in the 
kernel.  But stuff like bad sector and event logs, and other bits are 
still needed at runtime.


>>>	o Improve the ability of MD to auto-configure arrays.
>>
>>hmmmm.  Maybe in my language this means "improve ability for low-level 
>>drivers to communicate RAID support to upper layers"?
> 
> 
> I think he's talking about the deprecated raid autorun feature.  Again
> something that is completely misplaced in the kernel.  (ågain EVMS light)

Indeed, but I'll let him and the code illuminate the meaning :)

	Jeff



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From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: "Justin T. Gibbs" <gibbs@scsiguy.com>,
	linux-raid@vger.kernel.org,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: "Enhanced" MD code avaible for review
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 15:02:38 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4058AEDE.10305@pobox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040317193206.A17987@infradead.org>

Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 17, 2004 at 02:18:25PM -0500, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> 
>>>	o Allow fully pluggable meta-data modules
>>
>>yep, needed
> 
> 
> Well, this is pretty much the EVMS route we all heavily argued against.
> Most of the metadata shouldn't be visible in the kernel at all.

_some_ metadata is required at runtime, and must be in the kernel.  I 
agree that a lot of configuration doesn't necessarily need to be in the 
kernel.  But stuff like bad sector and event logs, and other bits are 
still needed at runtime.


>>>	o Improve the ability of MD to auto-configure arrays.
>>
>>hmmmm.  Maybe in my language this means "improve ability for low-level 
>>drivers to communicate RAID support to upper layers"?
> 
> 
> I think he's talking about the deprecated raid autorun feature.  Again
> something that is completely misplaced in the kernel.  (ågain EVMS light)

Indeed, but I'll let him and the code illuminate the meaning :)

	Jeff




  reply	other threads:[~2004-03-17 20:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-03-17 18:14 "Enhanced" MD code avaible for review Justin T. Gibbs
2004-03-17 19:18 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-17 19:32   ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-03-17 19:32     ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-03-17 20:02     ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2004-03-17 20:02       ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-17 21:18   ` Scott Long
2004-03-17 21:35     ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-17 21:45     ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-03-18  0:23       ` Scott Long
2004-03-18  1:55         ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-03-18  6:38         ` Stefan Smietanowski
2004-03-20 13:07         ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-03-21 23:42           ` Scott Long
2004-03-22  9:05             ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-03-22 21:59               ` Scott Long
2004-03-22 22:22                 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-03-23  6:48                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-03-18  1:56     ` viro
     [not found] <1AOTW-4Vx-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <1AOTW-4Vx-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
2004-03-18  1:33   ` Andi Kleen
2004-03-18  2:00     ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-20  9:58       ` Jamie Lokier
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-03-19 20:19 Justin T. Gibbs
2004-03-23  5:05 ` Neil Brown
2004-03-23  6:23   ` Justin T. Gibbs
2004-03-24  2:26     ` Neil Brown
2004-03-24 19:09       ` Matt Domsch
2004-03-25  2:21       ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-25 18:00         ` Kevin Corry
2004-03-25 18:42           ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-25 18:48             ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-25 23:46               ` Justin T. Gibbs
2004-03-26  0:01                 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-26  0:10                   ` Justin T. Gibbs
2004-03-26  0:14                     ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-25 22:04             ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-03-25 22:04               ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-03-26 19:19               ` Kevin Corry
2004-03-31 17:07                 ` Randy.Dunlap
2004-03-25 23:35             ` Justin T. Gibbs
2004-03-26  0:13               ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-26 17:43                 ` Justin T. Gibbs
2004-03-28  0:06                   ` Lincoln Dale
2004-03-30 17:54                     ` Justin T. Gibbs
2004-03-28  0:30                   ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-26 19:15             ` Kevin Corry
2004-03-26 20:45               ` Justin T. Gibbs
2004-03-27 15:39                 ` Kevin Corry
2004-03-30 17:03                   ` Justin T. Gibbs
2004-03-30 17:15                     ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-30 17:35                       ` Justin T. Gibbs
2004-03-30 17:46                         ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-30 18:04                           ` Justin T. Gibbs
2004-03-30 21:47                             ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-30 22:12                               ` Justin T. Gibbs
2004-03-30 22:34                                 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-30 18:11                         ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-03-25 22:59           ` Justin T. Gibbs
2004-03-25 23:44             ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-03-25 23:44               ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-03-26  0:03               ` Justin T. Gibbs

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