From: "Jürgen Botz" <jurgen@botz.org>
To: reiser@namesys.com
Cc: KELEMEN Peter <Peter.Kelemen@cern.ch>, reiserfs-list@namesys.com
Subject: Re: secure delete?
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 08:34:05 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <406066FD.4060601@botz.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <405FD7C2.5030605@namesys.com>
Hans Reiser wrote:
> Secure delete doesn't work against people who have the necessary
> equipment to scan the media and find remnants due to track
> misalignment.
No attempts at security are ever perfect; but there are "pretty good"
approaches to protecting yourself from various threat-models. A good
secure delete algorithm (see Peter Gutmann's 1995 paper on the topic
@ <http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/secure_del.html>) is a
reasonable approach to a threat model that is distinctly different from
the threat models that are addressed by encryption.
And yes, it can work pretty well against people with the type of
expensive equipment you describe.
I don't know enough about Reiser4's plug-in architecture yet to know
if a secure delete method can be plugged-in (superficially it doesn't
seem like it can as-is), but one way or another it will be needed.
:j
--
Jürgen Botz | While differing widely in the various
jurgen@botz.org | little bits we know, in our infinite
| ignorance we are all equal. -Karl Popper
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-03-23 16:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-03-19 10:13 secure delete? Peter Foldiak
2004-03-19 11:01 ` Cami
[not found] ` <20040319110748.GA30491@chihiro.cern.ch>
2004-03-19 11:29 ` Hans Reiser
2004-03-19 11:51 ` Peter Foldiak
2004-03-19 16:04 ` Hubert Chan
2004-03-19 17:54 ` Bennett Todd
2004-03-20 23:45 ` The Amazing Dragon
2004-03-20 23:59 ` Andrew Clausen
2004-03-23 1:37 ` Jurgen Botz
2004-03-23 2:49 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-03-23 6:22 ` Hans Reiser
2004-03-23 6:40 ` Hendrik Visage
2004-03-23 16:34 ` Jürgen Botz [this message]
2004-03-23 21:03 ` Jason Holt
2004-03-23 21:40 ` Hans Reiser
2004-03-24 2:36 ` Tom Vier
2004-03-24 6:26 ` Jason Holt
2004-03-24 7:39 ` Hans Reiser
2004-03-24 15:38 ` Jason Holt
2004-03-29 12:59 ` Hans Reiser
2004-03-24 7:54 ` Hans Reiser
2004-03-24 8:04 ` Vladimir Saveliev
2004-03-24 23:18 ` Enrique Perez-Terron
2004-03-25 3:49 ` Tom Vier
2004-03-25 13:00 ` Vladimir Saveliev
2004-03-24 18:20 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-03-25 3:16 ` Tom Vier
2004-03-30 1:10 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-03-30 2:13 Burnes, James
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