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From: John Reiser <jreiser@BitWagon.com>
To: davidm@hpl.hp.com
Cc: Jakub Jelinek <jakub@redhat.com>,
	Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Non-Exec stack patches
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 08:29:24 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4061B764.5070008@BitWagon.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <16481.15493.591464.867776@napali.hpl.hp.com>

Jakub> but it is still possible some language interpreter or
Jakub> something builds code on the fly on the stack).

David> That's why there is mprotect().

But mprotect() costs enough (hundreds of cycles) to be a significant burden
in some cases.  Generating code to a stack region that is inherently
executable is inexpensive (even allowing for restrictive alignment and
avoiding I/D cache conflicts), is thread safe, is async-signal safe, and
takes less work than other alternatives.  Yes, the "black hats" do this;
so do the "white hats."  Please do not increase the minimum cost for
applications that want generate-and-execute on the stack at upredictable
high frequency.

-- 
John Reiser, jreiser@BitWagon.com


  reply	other threads:[~2004-03-24 16:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-03-23 23:12 Non-Exec stack patches Kurt Garloff
2004-03-23 23:22 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-03-23 23:49 ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-24  0:21   ` Kurt Garloff
2004-03-24  0:38     ` David Mosberger
2004-03-24  1:20       ` Ulrich Drepper
2004-03-24  1:41         ` David Mosberger
2004-03-24  2:01           ` Ulrich Drepper
2004-03-24  7:09             ` David Mosberger
2004-03-24  7:00           ` Jakub Jelinek
2004-03-24  7:16             ` David Mosberger
2004-03-24  7:28               ` Jakub Jelinek
2004-03-24  7:45                 ` David Mosberger
2004-03-24 16:29                   ` John Reiser [this message]
2004-03-24 17:12                     ` David Mosberger
2004-03-24 17:24                       ` Jakub Jelinek
2004-03-24 18:01                         ` David Mosberger
2004-03-24 19:02                       ` John Reiser
2004-03-24 19:18                         ` David Mosberger
2004-03-24  0:41     ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-24  0:41       ` Ingo Molnar
2004-03-24 10:53       ` Kurt Garloff
     [not found] <1D3lO-3dh-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <1D3YZ-3Gl-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
2004-03-24  6:01   ` Andi Kleen
2004-03-24 10:23     ` Stefan Smietanowski
2004-03-24 11:27       ` Andi Kleen
2004-03-24 22:03         ` Kurt Garloff
     [not found] <20040324002149.GT4677@tpkurt.garloff.de.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found] ` <16480.55450.730214.175997@napali.hpl.hp.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]   ` <4060E24C.9000507@redhat.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]     ` <16480.59229.808025.231875@napali.hpl.hp.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]       ` <20040324070020.GI31589@devserv.devel.redhat.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]         ` <16481.13780.673796.20976@napali.hpl.hp.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]           ` <20040324072840.GK31589@devserv.devel.redhat.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]             ` <16481.15493.591464.867776@napali.hpl.hp.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]               ` <4061B764.5070008@BitWagon.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]                 ` <16481.49534.124281.434663@napali.hpl.hp.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]                   ` <20040324172454.GP31589@devserv.devel.redhat.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2004-03-24 17:49                     ` Andi Kleen
2004-03-24 17:54                       ` Jakub Jelinek
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-04-14  7:28 Siddha, Suresh B
2004-04-14  8:23 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-04-14  9:47 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-04-14 18:30   ` Kurt Garloff
2004-04-14 20:54     ` Jeff Dike
2004-04-14  8:45 Siddha, Suresh B
2004-04-14  9:38 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-04-14 19:14 Siddha, Suresh B

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