From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Hans Reiser Subject: Re: Fwd: reiser4 non-free? Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 08:50:26 -0700 Message-ID: <4097BBC2.6020907@namesys.com> References: <4091DAFE.5030809@namesys.com> <20040430055619.GD7487@archimedes.ucr.edu> <40923D1C.3090003@namesys.com> <20040430174343.GE7487@archimedes.ucr.edu> <409561EE.7030000@namesys.com> <20040502215500.GB18235@xieana.donarmstrong.com> <20040503065830.GS29226@nysv.org> <40967D41.705@namesys.com> <20040503172146.GV29226@nysv.org> <409682D0.10705@namesys.com> <20040503174910.GX29226@nysv.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Errors-To: flx@namesys.com In-Reply-To: <20040503174910.GX29226@nysv.org> List-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format="flowed" To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Markus_T=F6rnqvist?= Cc: debian-legal@lists.debian.org, reiserfs-list@namesys.com Markus T=F6rnqvist wrote: >On Mon, May 03, 2004 at 10:35:12AM -0700, Hans Reiser wrote: > > =20 > >>No, that certainly is an option. Relocating the credits to somewhere=20 >>reasonable for a particular installer is just fine with me. >> =20 >> > >Let's see what the Debian people say about showing the complete credits >in the preinstall screen during interactive installation and scrolling >through them automatically in a non-interactive one, for example. > >I think the response will be "but it's still non-free" :P > > =20 > >>>Also, if every software showed their credits, there would easily be a ton >>>of them. >>> =20 >>> >>This is bad why? They could be interesting for users to read while the=20 >>install proceeds. >> =20 >> > >I wouldn't mind it. However, it could get out of hand if we had >three-four-five screenfulls of credits during every boot. Then it's time >to /dev/null again... > =20 > Well, a really clever way of doing it would have a page describing what=20 the program does with a little bit of credits at the bottom. As a user, I am usually disappointed by how operating systems fail to=20 take the opportunity to educate me while I wait for them to install. >Credits (as commercials and ads and stuff) should never defeat the purpose >of the entity of which they are a part. > =20 > I would really like Debian to understand the difference between credits=20 and ads. Credits describe someone's contribution to the project. Ads=20 describe some product for you to buy. Very different things.