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From: Javier Sedano <javier.sedano@agora-2000.com>
To: Eduardo Pereira Habkost <ehabkost@conectiva.com.br>
Cc: Miguel Bolanos <mike@linuxlabs.com>, linux-8086@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Future of ELKS
Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 19:30:11 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <40ACEB23.7010101@agora-2000.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040520153744.GL24490@duckman.distro.conectiva>

Hi,

Eduardo Pereira Habkost wrote:
> 
> I guess that running gcc on 8086 will not be possible (or at least it will
> not be a simple task), the cc1 binary on my i386 is 2MB, and it will not
> be smaller if built for running on 8086. gcc is not a small compiler. The
> point is making a 8086 target for gcc. Running gcc on 8086 is another story,
> and I guess that is almost impossible. (and not worth, at least for me)
> 

	I supposed so. gcc is bloatware for elks. Even "vi" is :-PPP

> The issue about running a compiler in a 8086 is that it is too
> small. Running a good compiler and development environment on such small
> hardware is not easy, and if we choose go this way, we should choose
> leaving away other things that we would like, including gcc-8086. If we
> choose that all development environment neede to build elks should run
> on 8086, too, we will have additional limitations, and we will need first:
> 
> 1. Create a good development environment that runs on elks (we don't
>    have it). This environment will have all limitations that the 8086
>    hardware will impose to us
> 2. Make elks build using it
> 
> IMHO, this would be almost impossible.
> 

	Minix's ACK does so. Of course, it imposes limitations to the programs 
(the 64k limit), but is good enough for many applications. I heard 
something about ACK sources... did they free them?

Regards,


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-05-20 17:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-05-19 20:55 Future of ELKS Miguel Bolanos
2004-05-20  3:39 ` I'm in Void
2004-05-20 14:47   ` Miguel Bolanos
2004-05-20 11:42 ` Javier Sedano
2004-05-20 15:15   ` Miguel Bolanos
2004-05-20 15:37     ` Eduardo Pereira Habkost
2004-05-20 16:06       ` Andrey Romanenko
2004-05-21  5:51         ` Dan Olson
2004-05-20 17:30       ` Javier Sedano [this message]
2004-05-21  8:32         ` Gábor Lénárt
2004-05-21 14:15           ` Jody
2004-05-24  9:29             ` Gábor Lénárt
2004-05-24 18:20               ` Alan Cox
2004-05-20 23:43       ` David Given
2004-05-21  1:04         ` Stefan de Konink
2004-05-21  3:39           ` Chad Page
2004-05-29 16:58             ` Gregg C Levine
2004-05-21  5:55         ` Dan Olson
2004-05-21  6:08         ` Jody
2004-05-21 13:24         ` Eduardo Pereira Habkost
2004-05-21 16:30           ` David Given
2004-05-21 16:59             ` Michael McConnell
2004-05-22 12:12               ` David Given
2004-05-22 17:29                 ` Chad Page
2004-05-21 18:38             ` Jody
2004-05-22  8:53               ` jb1
2004-05-22 17:00                 ` Chad Page
2004-05-24  9:42               ` Gábor Lénárt
2004-05-20 16:54     ` Javier Sedano
2004-05-21  5:50     ` Dan Olson
2004-05-21  9:08       ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2004-05-21 10:24         ` Alan Cox
2004-05-24 12:20         ` Gábor Lénárt
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-05-20 13:40 Pat Gilliland
2004-05-21 17:53 ` Miguel Bolanos
2004-05-20 20:18 Tommy McCabe
2004-05-24 13:17 BODRATO Stefano

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