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From: Daniel J Walsh <dwalsh@redhat.com>
To: "Fedora SELinux support list for users & developers."
	<fedora-selinux-list@redhat.com>
Cc: SELinux <SELinux@tycho.nsa.gov>
Subject: Re: New design for policy on disk allowing multiple policy rpms to be simultaniously installed.
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 15:34:34 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <40B39FCA.10806@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <40B39C09.5040300@nc.rr.com>

Jeff Johnson wrote:

> Daniel J Walsh wrote:
>
>> As I have been trying to build a new policy we kept on coming up with 
>> problems in replacing the current policy file with either strict or 
>> targeted policy.  In the next version of Fedora Core we will be 
>> shipping a targeted policy on the iso images.  We will continue to 
>> make the strict policy available separately.  The problem comes in 
>> that these policy files conflict and we continued to work on how we 
>> could allow them both to be installed and have the user  fairly 
>> easily switch between policies.  With this new design, I could 
>> envision other policies being added in the future and test machines 
>> able to switch between the policies.
>>
>> 1. We are breaking the policy file out into two separate policy packages
>>
>>   selinux-policy-strict  (-source also)
>>        - Containing pretty much the current policy
>>   selinux-policy-targeted (-source also)
>>        - Containing a policy where most processed run in unconfined_t 
>> and only specific services run under a different security context.
>
>
>>
>> 2. Both packages obsolete the current policy rpm.
>>
>> 3. We want both policy files  to be installable and not conflict with 
>> each other.
>
>
>
> Hmmm, how is rpm to find out which file_contexts is to be used? Or is 
> targeted policy a strict ;-) subset
> of strict policy?

libselinux is converted to use the correct one.  selinux_policypath is 
set the the dirctory where the policy is installed during library 
initialization. 

So files contexts would be in 
${selinux_policypath}/contexts/file_contexts please excuse the pseudo code.

>
>>
>> 4. Policy files will  be installed in the 
>> /etc/selinux/(strict|targeted) directory.
>> Under this tree there will be at least three additional directiories
>>
>> policy/
>>    Containing the compiled policy file
>>
>> contexts/
>>    Containing all the contexts files
>>    file_contexts, default_contexts, default_type
>>    users/
>>             Containing user specific default context files.  root in 
>> particular.
>>
>> src/
>>    Containing the policy src directory.
>>
>> 5. Tools and libraries (fixfiles, libselinux, init, and setools) will 
>> be modified to use the /etc/sysconfig/selinux file to determine which 
>> policy to currently use on the system and where the policy files are 
>> located.
>>
>> 6. If during the install /etc/sysconfig/selinux does not exist or 
>> does not contain an entry for the type of policy,  the first one 
>> installed will set the context to itself.
>
>
>
> How much legacy compatibility is desired? I sure hope you say "None." ;-)

We are looking for a clean break.  Since we have a small installed base, 
this should be possible.  :^)

>
>>
>> cat /etc/sysconfig/selinux
>> #
>> # Change the following line to enforcing, permissive or disabled.
>> # On the next boot the machine will come up in one the selected mode
>> #
>> SELINUX=enforcing
>> #
>> # Select the type of policy that you are running current values are
>> #  strict and targeted
>> #
>> SELINUXTYPE=strict
>>
>>
>> So if nothing is in the /etc/sysconfig/selinux file and you install 
>> strict, strict will be added
>> to config file. If there is an entry then it will be left there.
>> This will allow the installation of both the Strict and Targeted 
>> policy and the user can change the choice via this file and can then 
>> relabel
>>
>> 7. We will not use symbolic links.  Use of symbolic links complicates 
>> policy and requires a user to modify them if he wanted to change the 
>> security context that he wants to run as.  Also you end up with 
>> conflicts in the post install scripts which need to replace the old 
>> symbolic link with a new one.
>
>
>
> Well, the existing means to handle simultaneous installs of otherwise 
> mutually exclusive packages is the
> alternatives mechanism used to handle sendmail vs. postfix and lpd vs. 
> cups.
>
> Yes, symlinks, feeble, but that is the existing mechanism, might as 
> well use if in the distro.
>
> 73 de Jeff
>
>
>
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  reply	other threads:[~2004-05-25 19:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-05-25 18:47 New design for policy on disk allowing multiple policy rpms to be simultaniously installed Daniel J Walsh
2004-05-25 19:18 ` Jeff Johnson
2004-05-25 19:34   ` Daniel J Walsh [this message]
2004-05-26 16:56   ` Stephen Smalley
2004-05-27  0:45     ` Jeff Johnson
2004-05-25 19:29 ` Jeff Johnson

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