From: "Alexander E. Patrakov" <patrakov@ums.usu.ru>
To: linux-hotplug@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Documentation
Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 13:12:23 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <40B5E937.4000601@ums.usu.ru> (raw)
In the Linux From Scratch (LFS) support mailing list a question has been
asked: why can't hotplug load the "snd-pcm-oss" module automatically
despite the fact that the Creative Live! soundcard is found and the
"snd-emu10k1" module is loaded automatically for it. I answered this
question, but another point has been raised there that should be really
discussed here.
Namely, the problem is that the recommendations on building Linux kernel
and writing /etc/modules.conf (or modprobe.conf) file that predate
adoption of Hotplug are now wrong, invalid and even harmful. Since
Hotplug and Udev will be probably included in the next version of LFS,
and even experienced developers cannot build a trouble-free kernel for
use with Hotplug and Udev on their first attempt, we expect a sharp
increase of support questions per day in our list.
I could not find any up-to-date "good practice" documents upon building
the kernel that work well with Hotplug and Udev. E.g., it is mentioned
nowhere that if a character or block device driver is built as a module,
then it will not be loaded automatically. Yes, that is in the Udev FAQ,
but in the wrong form: you state that it is not the task of Udev to load
modules (it is a negative statement), and I need an URL with some
positive recommendations how to load modules and to avoid various
chicken-and-egg problems. The snd-pcm-oss problem is also documented
nowhere. (is there any comprehensive list of such undetectable modules?)
Could you please post link here to some good (possibly even "official")
up-to-date and newbie-proof list of good kernel building practices? The
discussion of modprobe.conf will be also very nice. I will be glad to
put that link into the LFS book, thus avoiding repeated support questions.
If such document is not written yet, we should collaborate and write it.
--
Alexander E. Patrakov
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2004-05-27 13:12 Alexander E. Patrakov [this message]
2004-05-28 23:25 ` Documentation Greg KH
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2005-10-24 19:05 Documentation Vagin Andrey S.
2004-06-24 17:10 Documentation Tomas Ebenlendr
2004-06-24 22:03 ` Documentation Yoshinori K. Okuji
2004-06-25 13:17 ` Documentation Jeroen Dekkers
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2004-05-15 14:28 Documentation Jody
2004-05-17 13:35 ` Documentation Andrey Romanenko
2004-05-17 13:40 ` Documentation Miguel Bolanos
2003-06-06 13:20 Documentation Matthew Wilcox
2002-08-29 9:39 documentation vandana mehtani
2002-08-29 15:46 ` documentation Dave Wilhardt
2002-04-24 14:26 documentation Guilhem Tardy
2002-04-24 16:58 ` documentation Takashi Iwai
2002-04-24 19:32 ` documentation Guilhem Tardy
2002-04-26 17:54 ` documentation Takashi Iwai
2002-05-03 16:11 ` documentation Guilhem Tardy
2002-05-03 16:22 ` documentation Paul Davis
2002-05-03 16:28 ` documentation Takashi Iwai
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2002-03-30 7:42 ` Documentation Ralf Baechle
2002-02-02 9:18 Documentation Guillaume Chamberland-Larose
2002-02-02 10:39 ` Documentation Yven J. Leist
2002-02-05 18:18 ` Documentation Randy.Dunlap
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