From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
To: Alan Cox <alan@redhat.com>
Cc: SCSI Mailing List <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@steeleye.com>,
Douglas Gilbert <dougg@torque.net>,
Arjan van de Ven <arjanv@redhat.com>, Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>
Subject: Re: sg driver and Fedora Core 2
Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 13:42:17 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <40B8CB79.9080303@pobox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040529173530.GA24516@devserv.devel.redhat.com>
Alan Cox wrote:
> On Sat, May 29, 2004 at 01:27:58PM -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote:
>
>>Really what needs to happen is a generic userland tap attaches to a
>>chrdev, issues an ioctl(2) to attach to a request_queue, and then does
>>read(2)/write(2)/mmap(2) to communicate with the request_queue.
>
>
> Is there a reason that couldn't be part of the block layer sysfs in 2.7.x
>
>
>>:)
>>Call it /dev/bsg, or somesuch.
>
>
> Except that I wonder if it should be in sysfs I agree entirely.
I'll let others haggle over the device name and location <grin> sysfs
or whereever is fine with me. I just care about the chrdev's behavior :)
>> OTOH, the SG_IO ioctl does eliminate the userland app needing to
>>worry about _any_ target/addressing information, since that is implicit
>>in the dentry pointing to the blkdev's inode.
>
>
> It makes it very hard to scan scsi busses, which is what the flash burner
> app does, and what xsane does (although sane survives ok because there
> are no kernel scanner device drivers)
This is precisely the problem with the only-SG_IO approach as well:
AFAICS, you lose the ability to scan the bus, just as you gain the
ability to not have to care about scanning the bus. Getting back on
topic, I agree with you that the Fedora change [if it is as you
describe] is not a good one. And breakage in a stable kernel version is
also quite annoying.
Jeff
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-05-29 17:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-05-28 14:05 sg driver and Fedora Core 2 Douglas Gilbert
2004-05-28 14:18 ` Jens Axboe
2004-05-28 14:28 ` Jens Axboe
2004-05-28 17:25 ` Alan Cox
2004-05-29 15:55 ` James Bottomley
2004-05-29 15:57 ` Alan Cox
2004-05-29 16:07 ` James Bottomley
2004-05-29 16:29 ` Alan Cox
2004-05-29 16:36 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-05-29 16:42 ` Alan Cox
2004-05-29 17:45 ` Matthew Wilcox
2004-05-29 16:49 ` James Bottomley
2004-05-29 16:56 ` Alan Cox
2004-05-29 17:28 ` James Bottomley
2004-05-29 17:38 ` Alan Cox
2004-05-29 17:27 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-05-29 17:29 ` Jens Axboe
2004-05-30 10:37 ` Douglas Gilbert
2004-05-30 10:41 ` Alan Cox
2004-06-07 8:56 ` Douglas Gilbert
2004-05-29 17:35 ` Alan Cox
2004-05-29 17:42 ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2004-05-29 17:38 ` James Bottomley
2004-05-29 17:46 ` Alan Cox
2004-05-29 17:58 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-05-30 10:20 ` Jens Axboe
2004-05-29 16:24 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-05-28 17:39 ` Arjan van de Ven
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