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From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
To: Alan Cox <alan@redhat.com>
Cc: SCSI Mailing List <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@steeleye.com>,
	Douglas Gilbert <dougg@torque.net>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjanv@redhat.com>, Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>
Subject: Re: sg driver and Fedora Core 2
Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 13:42:17 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <40B8CB79.9080303@pobox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040529173530.GA24516@devserv.devel.redhat.com>

Alan Cox wrote:
> On Sat, May 29, 2004 at 01:27:58PM -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> 
>>Really what needs to happen is a generic userland tap attaches to a 
>>chrdev, issues an ioctl(2) to attach to a request_queue, and then does 
>>read(2)/write(2)/mmap(2) to communicate with the request_queue.
> 
> 
> Is there a reason that couldn't be part of the block layer sysfs in 2.7.x 
> 
> 
>>:)
>>Call it /dev/bsg, or somesuch.
> 
> 
> Except that I wonder if it should be in sysfs I agree entirely. 

I'll let others haggle over the device name and location <grin>  sysfs 
or whereever is fine with me.  I just care about the chrdev's behavior :)


>>  OTOH, the SG_IO ioctl does eliminate the userland app needing to 
>>worry about _any_ target/addressing information, since that is implicit 
>>in the dentry pointing to the blkdev's inode.
> 
> 
> It makes it very hard to scan scsi busses, which is what the flash burner
> app does, and what xsane does (although sane survives ok because there
> are no kernel scanner device drivers)


This is precisely the problem with the only-SG_IO approach as well:

AFAICS, you lose the ability to scan the bus, just as you gain the 
ability to not have to care about scanning the bus.  Getting back on 
topic, I agree with you that the Fedora change [if it is as you 
describe] is not a good one.  And breakage in a stable kernel version is 
also quite annoying.

	Jeff



  reply	other threads:[~2004-05-29 17:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-05-28 14:05 sg driver and Fedora Core 2 Douglas Gilbert
2004-05-28 14:18 ` Jens Axboe
2004-05-28 14:28   ` Jens Axboe
2004-05-28 17:25 ` Alan Cox
2004-05-29 15:55   ` James Bottomley
2004-05-29 15:57     ` Alan Cox
2004-05-29 16:07       ` James Bottomley
2004-05-29 16:29         ` Alan Cox
2004-05-29 16:36           ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-05-29 16:42             ` Alan Cox
2004-05-29 17:45               ` Matthew Wilcox
2004-05-29 16:49           ` James Bottomley
2004-05-29 16:56             ` Alan Cox
2004-05-29 17:28               ` James Bottomley
2004-05-29 17:38                 ` Alan Cox
2004-05-29 17:27             ` Jeff Garzik
2004-05-29 17:29               ` Jens Axboe
2004-05-30 10:37                 ` Douglas Gilbert
2004-05-30 10:41                   ` Alan Cox
2004-06-07  8:56                     ` Douglas Gilbert
2004-05-29 17:35               ` Alan Cox
2004-05-29 17:42                 ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2004-05-29 17:38               ` James Bottomley
2004-05-29 17:46                 ` Alan Cox
2004-05-29 17:58                 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-05-30 10:20                   ` Jens Axboe
2004-05-29 16:24       ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-05-28 17:39 ` Arjan van de Ven

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