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From: Clemens Schwaighofer <cs@tequila.co.jp>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: APM realy sucks on 2.6.x
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2004 18:50:10 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <40C58BD2.8040001@tequila.co.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040608091709.GC2569@elf.ucw.cz>

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Pavel Machek wrote:
| Hi!
|
|
|>|>| PCMCIA... well, that's another obsolete technology. Too bad.
|>|>
|>|>PCMCIA is obsolete? Did I miss something, or was this a joke?
|>|
|>|
|>| Obsoleted by cardbus, I believe. (cardbus cards look like PCMCIA
|>| cards, but electrical protocol is different) Plus, as someone else
|>| noted, stuff moves into mainboard. USB also replacs part of what
|>| PCMCIA was for.
|>
|>hmm, I didn't know that there is a change from PCMCIA to cardbus.
|>Thought still there are lot of pcmcia stuff around. wlan cards, eg my
|>dial up card (CF card into a PCMCIA adapter). Well I wouldn't abandon
|>PCMCIA so fast. At least the linux kernel is know for beeing able to use
|>very old hardware in a very good way ...
|
|
| Yes, pcmcia still survives in form of compactflash, mostly used by
| low-powered handhelds etc. That's where ISA survives too.

well and low-powered handhelds are one field where linux should run :)
at least on my zaurus its running happily [okay this doesn't have a
pcmcia slot, just an sd/card and cf/card]

| I agree that supporting PCMCIA is usefull, and that linux should run
| on old hardware; but you can see that PCMCIA and APM is in "old
| hardware" category, along with ISA, Pentium I CPUs and serial ports.

Well I wouldn't put PCMCIA into the same part as ISA and Pentium I,
because my 2 year old Sonylaptop with a Pentium-M 4 1.5Ghz has PCMCIA
slots ... So its not like it is found only on stone old Laptops.

| Linux still tries to support 386 cpus, and its right. However its not
| same level of support as modern hardware.

yeah but its very rare to find 386 (except perhaps junkyards), but its
very common to find PCMCIA. way more easy than Pentium I or ISA slots ...

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  reply	other threads:[~2004-06-08  9:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-06-04 21:26 APM realy sucks on 2.6.x Sebastian Kloska
2004-06-04 23:14 ` Keith Duthie
2004-06-05  8:03   ` Sebastian Kloska
2004-06-04 23:54 ` Hugh Dickins
2004-06-05 17:18   ` Sebastian Kloska
2004-06-06  3:29     ` Michael Clark
2004-06-06  4:25       ` Andrew Morton
2004-06-06 13:56         ` Sebastian Kloska
2004-06-07 12:38 ` Pavel Machek
2004-06-07 13:37   ` Sebastian Kloska
2004-06-07 14:05     ` Pavel Machek
2004-06-07 14:28       ` Sebastian Kloska
2004-06-07 14:48         ` Pavel Machek
2004-06-07 19:53           ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2004-06-07 21:13             ` Sebastian Kloska
2004-06-08  4:16           ` Clemens Schwaighofer
2004-06-08  7:12             ` Sebastian Kloska
2004-06-08  8:58             ` Pavel Machek
2004-06-08  9:02               ` Clemens Schwaighofer
2004-06-08  9:17                 ` Pavel Machek
2004-06-08  9:50                   ` Clemens Schwaighofer [this message]
2004-06-08  9:55                     ` Pavel Machek
2004-06-08 23:59                       ` Clemens Schwaighofer
2004-06-08 17:48               ` Bill Davidsen
2004-06-08 18:59                 ` Daniel Gryniewicz
2004-06-08 20:18                 ` Ian Stirling
2004-06-07 14:42     ` Keith Duthie
2004-06-07 14:44       ` Pavel Machek
2004-06-07 14:47       ` Sebastian Kloska
2004-06-07 14:51         ` Pavel Machek
2004-06-07 15:09           ` Sebastian Kloska
2004-06-07 16:26             ` Pavel Machek
2004-06-07 15:19         ` Keith Duthie
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-06-07  8:11 Sebastian Kloska
2004-06-08  9:49 Sau Dan Lee

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