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From: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
To: Sylwester Nawrocki <snjw23@gmail.com>
Cc: Sylwester Nawrocki <s.nawrocki@samsung.com>,
	Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@iki.fi>,
	"linux-media@vger.kernel.org" <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>,
	Guennadi Liakhovetski <g.liakhovetski@gmx.de>,
	"HeungJun Kim/Mobile S/W Platform Lab(DMC)/E3"
	<riverful.kim@samsung.com>,
	"Seung-Woo Kim/Mobile S/W Platform Lab(DMC)/E4"
	<sw0312.kim@samsung.com>, Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xs4all.nl>
Subject: Re: [Q] Interleaved formats on the media bus
Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2012 14:30:14 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4116034.kVC1fDZsLk@avalon> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F2D641A.5020900@gmail.com>

Hi Sylwester,

On Saturday 04 February 2012 18:00:10 Sylwester Nawrocki wrote:
> On 02/04/2012 12:34 PM, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > On Thursday 02 February 2012 12:14:08 Sylwester Nawrocki wrote:
> >> On 02/02/2012 10:55 AM, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> >>> Do all those sensors interleave the data in the same way ? This sounds
> >>> quite
> >> 
> >> No, each one uses it's own interleaving method.
> >> 
> >>> hackish and vendor-specific to me, I'm not sure if we should try to
> >>> generalize that. Maybe vendor-specific media bus format codes would be
> >>> the way to go. I don't expect ISPs to understand the format, they will
> >>> likely be configured in pass-through mode. Instead of adding explicit
> >>> support for all those weird formats to all ISP drivers, it might make
> >>> sense to add a "binary blob" media bus code to be used by the ISP.
> >> 
> >> This could work, except that there is no way to match a fourcc with media
> >> bus code. Different fourcc would map to same media bus code, making it
> >> impossible for the brigde to handle multiple sensors or one sensor
> >> supporting multiple interleaved formats. Moreover there is a need to map
> >> media bus code to the MIPI-CSI data ID. What if one sensor sends "binary"
> >> blob with MIPI-CSI "User Define Data 1" and the other with "User Define
> >> Data 2" ?
> > 
> > My gut feeling is that the information should be retrieved from the sensor
> > driver. This is all pretty vendor-specific, and adding explicit support
> > for such sensors to each bridge driver wouldn't be very clean. Could the
> > bridge
> 
> We have many standard pixel codes in include/linux/v4l2-mediabus.h, yet each
> bridge driver supports only a subset of them. I wouldn't expect a sudden
> need for all existing bridge drivers to support some strange interleaved
> image formats.

Those media bus codes are standard, so implementing explicit support for them 
in bridge drivers is fine with me. What I want to avoid is adding explicit 
support for sensor-specific formats to bridges. There should be no dependency 
between the bridge and the sensor.

> > query the sensor using a subdev operation ?
> 
> There is also a MIPI-CSI2 receiver in between that needs to be configured.
> I.e. it must know that it processes the User Defined Data 1, which implies
> certain pixel alignment, etc. So far a media bus pixel codes have been
> a base information to handle such things.

For CSI user-defined data types, I still think that the information required 
to configure the CSI receiver should come from the sensor. Only the sensor 
knows what user-defined data type it will generate.

> >> Maybe we could create e.g. V4L2_MBUS_FMT_USER?, for each MIPI-CSI User
> >> Defined data identifier, but as I remember it was decided not to map
> >> MIPI-CSI data codes directly onto media bus pixel codes.
> > 
> > Would setting the format directly on the sensor subdev be an option ?
> 
> Do you mean setting a MIPI-CSI2 format ?

No, I mean setting the media bus code on the sensor output pad to a vendor-
specific value.

> It should work as long as the bridge driver can identify media bus code
> given a fourcc. I can't recall situation where a reverse lookup is
> necessary, i.e. struct v4l2_mbus_framefmt::code -> fourcc. This would
> fail since e.g. JPEG and YUV/JPEG would both correspond to User 1 format.

-- 
Regards,

Laurent Pinchart

  reply	other threads:[~2012-02-05 13:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-01-31 11:23 [Q] Interleaved formats on the media bus Sylwester Nawrocki
2012-02-01  1:44 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-02-01 10:44   ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2012-02-01 10:00 ` Sakari Ailus
2012-02-01 11:41   ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2012-02-02  9:55     ` Laurent Pinchart
2012-02-02 11:00       ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-02-04 11:36         ` Laurent Pinchart
2012-02-02 11:14       ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2012-02-04 11:34         ` Laurent Pinchart
2012-02-04 17:00           ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2012-02-05 13:30             ` Laurent Pinchart [this message]
2012-02-08 22:48               ` Sylwester Nawrocki
     [not found]                 ` <12779203.vQPWKN8eZf@avalon>
2012-02-10  8:42                   ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-02-10 10:19                     ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2012-02-10 10:31                       ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2012-02-10 10:33                       ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-02-10 10:58                         ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2012-02-10 11:15                           ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-02-10 11:35                             ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2012-02-10 11:51                               ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-02-04 11:22     ` Sakari Ailus
2012-02-04 11:30       ` Laurent Pinchart
2012-02-04 15:38         ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2012-02-04 15:26       ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2012-02-04 15:43         ` Sakari Ailus
2012-02-04 18:32           ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2012-02-04 23:44             ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2012-02-05  0:36               ` Sylwester Nawrocki
2012-02-05  0:04           ` Guennadi Liakhovetski

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