From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Hans Reiser Subject: Re: implementing reiserfs in C++ for a new OS Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 23:08:17 -0700 Message-ID: <4119B7D1.7000705@namesys.com> References: <71d3364904080706112e72fb6b@mail.gmail.com> <20040809172437.GP1284@nysv.org> <71d3364904080922267e8c14af@mail.gmail.com> <200408101312.48888.reiserfs-list@quinnh.org> <4119273E.1040104@namesys.com> <20040810211951.GU1284@nysv.org> <41194690.5050908@namesys.com> <1365645117.20040811065416@tnonline.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Errors-To: flx@namesys.com In-Reply-To: <1365645117.20040811065416@tnonline.net> List-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format="flowed" To: Spam Cc: reiserfs-list@namesys.com Spam wrote: > =20 > >>Markus T=F6rnqvist wrote: >> =20 >> >>>On Tue, Aug 10, 2004 at 12:51:26PM -0700, Hans Reiser wrote: >>>=20 >>> >>> =20 >>> >>>>Yes, but it protects the expression not just in every literal word, but >>>>in the sense of it. Look at the lawsuits over ripping off movie script >>>>writers. >>>> =20 >>>> >>>> =20 >>>> > > =20 > >>>=20 >>> >>> =20 >>> >>>>Taking the essence of our expression, and transforming it into C++ and >>>>Indian, will not avoid infringement of our copyright. Our documentation >>>>is as protected as the source code, probably more so, because we=20 >>>>haven't GPL'd everything on the website. >>>> =20 >>>> >>>> =20 >>>> >>>I have nothing but respect for you, your team and your work, but this >>>is a bit wrong. >>> >>>Sure the documentation is copyrighted, but it's the actual documentation, >>>not the idea behind it, that is copyrighted. >>>=20 >>> >>> =20 >>> >>There is an idea, and then there is an expression of an idea. =20 >>expression is not just the letters, or the words, it is somewhere=20 >>between the exact characters and the idea. >> =20 >> > > I do not believe that copyright protects ideas, only the written > texts, graphics, and music. > > Take as an example a inventor. If he has an idea that he wants to > protect he would need to patent it to protect it. Otherwise only his > work can be protected with copyright. I am not sure that the actual > invention can be copyrighted either. > > In this case with Hans, Namesys and reiserfs/reiser4 the actual > written code and documentation etc is covered by copyright. The > ideas behind the filesystems are not. They would only be protected > by patents. > > > > > =20 > If you translate a poem into french, it is still rightfully copyright=20 protected by the original author. But hey, these guys are just doing this work for academic purposes they=20 say and not releasing it to the world, so I think they are not going to=20 be violating the GPL, so it is all nothing to worry about. Maybe this=20 sort of thing makes for a good student assignment in their view, I don't=20 know.... Hans