From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "Dr. Giovanni A. Orlando" Subject: Re: implementing reiserfs in C++ for a new OS Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 14:12:50 +0200 Message-ID: <411A0D42.8020204@futuretg.com> References: <71d3364904080922267e8c14af@mail.gmail.com> <200408101312.48888.reiserfs-list@quinnh.org> <4119273E.1040104@namesys.com> <20040810211951.GU1284@nysv.org> <41194690.5050908@namesys.com> <1365645117.20040811065416@tnonline.net> <20040811073959.GV1284@nysv.org> <4119D468.8080104@futuretg.com> <20040811090033.GX1284@nysv.org> <4119EA9B.7090503@futuretg.com> <20040811105442.GY1284@nysv.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Errors-To: flx@namesys.com In-Reply-To: <20040811105442.GY1284@nysv.org> List-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format="flowed" To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Markus_T=F6rnqvist?= Cc: reiserfs-list@namesys.com Markus T=F6rnqvist wrote: >On Wed, Aug 11, 2004 at 11:44:59AM +0200, Dr. Giovanni A. Orlando wrote: > > =20 > >>Meucci open the file for copyright before Bell, but seems it is=20 >>necessary to renew each year. >> =20 >> > >Copyrights are not filed, patents are. > =20 > Yes. is the patent, not the copyright. He don't have the money to pay the renew the patent. >Are you sure you're not mistaken in words here? > > =20 > >>Therefore, he don't renew. >> =20 >> > >How stupid of him. > > =20 > >>The word "inventor" in the US, means generally "rich". This have another = >>sense outside America, or >>for immigrant people. >> =20 >> > >I have never heard of a rich inventor, except the chance to get money >by producing the invention. > =20 > Well. If an inventor have no money is a BIG problem, however actually in the GPL times, it is very easy to release a software also with no money. >>>"Tekij=E4noikeus suojaa teoksen kirjallista tai muuta asua, ei asiasis= =E4lt=F6=E4." >>>Copyright protects the literary or other presentation of a work, not the >>>factual content. >>> =20 >>> >>This is bad. The code or documentation explains the ideas, and must be=20 >>copyright in the same mode are the ideas itself. >> =20 >> > >The idea is not copyrighted or patented or protected in any way, but the >code is. > This is bad and incorrect for me. > There is a difference there. >Of course the idea can be patented in some degenerate country like the US >and it seems the EU is making the same mistake, but technically the idea >can not be protected. And should not be. > =20 > The US is not a degeneated country. Do you stay in the US sometime? > =20 > >>Yes. Actually today it is also possible to configure the kernel=20 >>graphically, but my idea is better. >>I need time that I have no actually. >> =20 >> > >I know how you're feeling. > >I have also many projects for which I haven't had time, so I've given >them away to see if anyone else would do it and I would help and give >ideas. All in freedom and free software. > >Maybe you should talk to the KDE guys about your idea that they would >implement it more like you would, both of you would win. > > > =20 > >>If you comment to KDE people something that does not exist, and after=20 >>your comment exist something similar >>you need simply do a small sum: 2+2. >>Be stoled by someone that re-offer it under GPL your idea, cause some=20 >>bad humor. >> =20 >> > >You gave it to them, whose fault is that? > > =20 > I comment what we will do. They release a version. However, actually is=20 not important. >>>Respect should come from respecting someone else. >>> =20 >>> >>In 1987 or so, Chinese and people for Taiwan and Japan go around the=20 >>world and comment: >>"We will copy your product and do it better". Today, Taiwan and Japan is = >>probably the best >>place for electronic components worldwide. >> =20 >> > >Sure. And we let them do it, whose fault is that? > > =20 > >>Different companies here in Italy, about manufacturing suffering some=20 >>fraud from Chinese companies >>that re-produce the hardware for car testing and stole the clients. Do=20 >> =20 >> > >Fraud? > >If they do it better, where's the fraud? > =20 > No they copy 100% the same machine for car test. >I mean, what's stopping Italy from doing it better than China? >Berlusconi? C'mon, you could still compete with China, it's not like the >world's biggest army is holding you in siege. > > =20 > >>will someone open a case on China >>for copyright contacting chinese attorneys?. Very complex and expensive. >> =20 >> > >I don't know how the car is patented, I'm sure it is, but still everyone >has the right to set up a car shop and build the things. > =20 > >This is one of the points of free trade. Everyone's equal and free, >so if someone pushes out better products, you respond by making an even >better product. > >I fail to see the point in whining about something as glorious as this. > > =20 > >>I see the entire software industry going to disaster because some young=20 >>boy release a similar program >>at no cost. No one may compete with free. In any this is a complex=20 >>global problem. >> =20 >> > >Of course you can compete with free, fight free with free, make a better >free solution. > >It's like a*x=3Da*y =3D> x=3Dy > > =20 > >>>I must confess I haven't seen Tron... >>> =20 >>> >>You don't know Tron, because probably you are too young. >>Tron was made by Walt Disney (Buena ventura). It is dated 1982. >> =20 >> > >I know such a movie exists, but not much more. I'm also born in 1982 ;) > > =20 > >>Jeff Bridges, a young programmer in a small company was stoled by its=20 >>game program. A friend of him write a program >>that inspect information, and also some time ... the owner of the=20 >>company was fired because he claim to be the author >>of the game and Jeff Bridge then get the 'expected' money and respect. >> =20 >> > >Yeah, I should see it. > > =20 > OK. Thanks, Giovanni --=20 --=20 -- Check FT Websites ...=20 http://www.futuretg.com - ftp://ftp.futuretg.com http://www.FTLinuxCourse.com http://www.FTLinuxCourse.com/Certification http://www.rpmparadaise.org http://GNULinuxUtilities.com http://www.YourPersonalOperatingSystem.com --