From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1C2fz5-00084i-Bt for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 01 Sep 2004 21:01:51 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1C2fz3-00081k-Np for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 01 Sep 2004 21:01:51 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1C2fz3-00081c-Kh for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 01 Sep 2004 21:01:49 -0400 Received: from [213.165.64.20] (helo=mail.gmx.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.34) id 1C2fti-0001YD-UA for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 01 Sep 2004 20:56:19 -0400 Message-ID: <41366F2C.1020309@gmx.com> Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2004 02:54:04 +0200 From: "Bochnig, Martin" MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Attitute and Predisposition of the List & newbie documets References: <4136569F.1030707@softlog.com.au> In-Reply-To: <4136569F.1030707@softlog.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: bochnig@pool.math.tu-berlin.de, qemu-devel@nongnu.org List-Id: qemu-devel.nongnu.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org Lindsay Mathieson wrote: > Thomas Munn wrote: > >> While I am not among those who are enlightened enought to talk about >> opcodes and their proper optimization, I do have a few observations to >> make, having watched this list for 2 months. >> >> 1. People really don't like newcomers on this list. > > As a newbie from a few weeks ago, that is *not* my experience, people > have been quite helpful. I can only confirm the latter: Pretty helpful suggestions, comments and help. >> 3. QEMU is rather DIFFICULT to use. I have been a UNIX admin for 10 >> years. How do you define "UNIX admin" ? *lol* > > Well I haven't, and I managed fine. I would venture to say that qemu is > *not* for casual users at the moment, its in heavy dev and prone to > breaking :( > >> 4. I am compiling a list of my difficulties, and will be writing >> documentation to help people setting qemu for the first time. The >> existing documentation simply does not cover in high detail how to get >> qemu working. How to start a terminal window? For example, I found it very confusing on what >> qemu-fast is for. A simple "QEMU-FAST ONLY works with linux at this >> time. You must install a working GUEST image, apply the appropriate >> patch to the GUEST kernel, and then run qemu-fast. DO NOT TRY to use >> QEMU-FAST otherwise. It will simply segfault! Did you ever visit QEMU's mainpage? If so, did you read anything? Martin Bochnig QEMU newbie SCSecA Solaris 9 SCNA Solaris 9, 8 SCSA Solaris 9, 8 Student of Maths ans BSciIT