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From: "Sven Köhler" <skoehler@upb.de>
To: Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, nfs@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: why do i get "Stale NFS file handle" for hours?
Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 04:23:24 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <413A789C.9000501@upb.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1094349744.13791.128.camel@lade.trondhjem.org>

>>I agree, but you simply admit that the NFS client doesn't seem to know, 
>>when the server was restart. The simpliest thing i can imagine, is that 
>>the NFS server generates a random integer-value at start, and transmits 
>>it along with ESTALE. If the integer-value is different from the 
>>integer-value the server send while mounting the FS, than the kernel has 
>>to remount it transparently. This is a simple thing so that a client can 
>>safely determine, if the server has been restarted, or not, and it only 
>>adds 4 byte to some nfs-packets.
> 
> No.... The simplest thing is for the server to actually abide by the
> RFCs and not generate filehandles that change on reboot.

OK, that sounds complicated, but if it would work, than it would be very 
nice indeed.

> NFSv4 is the ONLY version of the protocol that actually supports the
> concept of filehandles that have a finite lifetime.

But NFSv4 is still exprerimental :-( and i think the client don't have 
NFSv4 support too.

>>In my case, if the nfs directory is mounted to /mnt/nfs, i can't even do 
>>a simple "cd /mnt/nfs" without getting the "stale nfs handle" - even if 
>>i use a different shell. I always thought, that the "cd /mnt/nfs" should 
>>work, since the shell will aquire a new handle, but it doesn't work :-(
> 
> It won't if the root filehandle is broken too. That is the standard way
> of telling the NFS client that the administrator has revoked our access
> to the filesystem.
> 
> The solution is simple here: fix the broken server...

Sorry? Why is my server broken? I'm using kernel 2.6.8.1 with nfs-utils 
1.0.6 on my server, and i don't see, what should be broken.

Thx
   Sven

  reply	other threads:[~2004-09-05  2:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-09-05  1:06 why do i get "Stale NFS file handle" for hours? Sven Köhler
2004-09-05  1:39 ` Trond Myklebust
2004-09-05  1:39   ` Trond Myklebust
2004-09-05  1:51   ` Sven Köhler
2004-09-05  2:02     ` Trond Myklebust
2004-09-05  2:02       ` Trond Myklebust
2004-09-05  2:23       ` Sven Köhler [this message]
2004-09-05  3:01         ` Trond Myklebust
2004-09-05  3:01           ` Trond Myklebust
2004-09-05  8:17           ` Tim Connors
2004-09-05  8:17             ` Tim Connors
2004-09-05  8:59             ` Florian Weimer
2004-09-05  9:02               ` Tim Connors
2004-09-05 16:20             ` Mike Jagdis
2004-09-06  1:32               ` Tim Connors
2004-09-05 13:18           ` Sven Köhler
2004-09-05 20:10             ` Trond Myklebust
2004-09-05 20:10               ` Trond Myklebust
2004-09-06  7:47               ` Kalin KOZHUHAROV
2004-09-06  9:57           ` David Woodhouse
2004-09-06 15:59             ` Trond Myklebust
2004-09-06 15:59               ` Trond Myklebust
2004-09-07  0:55           ` [NFS] " Greg Banks
2004-09-06  6:47 ` Frank Steiner

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