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From: George Anzinger <george@mvista.com>
To: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
Cc: john stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>,
	Albert Cahalan <albert@users.sourceforge.net>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	tim@physik3.uni-rostock.de, Ulrich.Windl@rz.uni-regensburg.de,
	Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>,
	linux@dominikbrodowski.de, David Mosberger <davidm@hpl.hp.com>,
	Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>,
	paulus@samba.org, schwidefsky@de.ibm.com, jimix@us.ibm.com,
	keith maanthey <kmannth@us.ibm.com>, greg kh <greg@kroah.com>,
	Patricia Gaughen <gone@us.ibm.com>,
	Chris McDermott <lcm@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] new timeofday core subsystem (v.A0)
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 11:00:38 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <41488346.1020101@mvista.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0409150843270.14721@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com>

Christoph Lameter wrote:
~

>>>One could do this but we want to have a tickless system. The tick is only
>>>necessary if the time needs to be adjusted.
>>
>>I really think a tickless system, for other than UML systems, is a loosing
>>thing.  The accounting overhead on context switch (which increases as the number
>>of switchs per second) will cause more overhead than a periodic accounting tick
>>once a respectable load appears.  The periodic accounting tick has a flat
>>overhead that does not depend on load.
> 
> 
> I am not following you here. Why does the context switch overhead
> increase? Because there are multiple interrupts for different tasks done
> in the tick?
> 
Each task has several timers, i.e. time slice, time limit, and possibly itimer 
profile.  Granted only one of these needs to be sent to the timer code, but that 
takes a bit of time, not much, but enough to increase the context switch 
overhead such that a system with a modest amount of context switching will incur 
more timer management overhead than the periodic tick generates.

-- 
George Anzinger   george@mvista.com
High-res-timers:  http://sourceforge.net/projects/high-res-timers/
Preemption patch: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/rml


  reply	other threads:[~2004-09-15 18:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-09-02 21:07 [RFC] New Time of day proposal (updated 9/2/04) john stultz
2004-09-02 21:09 ` [RFC][PATCH] new timeofday core subsystem (v.A0) john stultz
2004-09-02 21:11   ` [RFC][PATCH] new timeofday i386 hooks (v.A0) john stultz
2004-09-02 21:12     ` [RFC][PATCH] new timeofday i386 timesources (v.A0) john stultz
2004-09-03  1:44     ` [RFC][PATCH] new timeofday i386 hooks (v.A0) George Anzinger
2004-09-03  2:06       ` john stultz
2004-09-03  8:07       ` Ulrich Windl
2004-09-03 18:09         ` George Anzinger
2004-09-02 22:19   ` [RFC][PATCH] new timeofday core subsystem (v.A0) Christoph Lameter
2004-09-02 22:28     ` john stultz
2004-09-02 22:42       ` Christoph Lameter
2004-09-02 23:14         ` john stultz
2004-09-02 23:39           ` Christoph Lameter
2004-09-03  0:07             ` john stultz
2004-09-03  0:47               ` Christoph Lameter
2004-09-03  1:30                 ` john stultz
2004-09-03  7:43                   ` George Anzinger
2004-09-03 19:32                     ` john stultz
2004-09-03 16:18                   ` Christoph Lameter
2004-09-03 21:00                     ` john stultz
2004-09-03 22:04                       ` Christoph Lameter
2004-09-03 23:00                         ` john stultz
2004-09-04  0:11                           ` Christoph Lameter
2004-09-03  1:39   ` George Anzinger
2004-09-03  1:58     ` john stultz
2004-09-03  6:42     ` Albert Cahalan
2004-09-03  7:24       ` George Anzinger
2004-09-03 19:27         ` john stultz
2004-09-03 22:10           ` George Anzinger
2004-09-03 23:32             ` john stultz
2004-09-04  0:02               ` George Anzinger
2004-09-08 18:07                 ` john stultz
2004-09-09  0:08                   ` George Anzinger
2004-09-09  0:51                     ` john stultz
2004-09-09  3:14                       ` Christoph Lameter
2004-09-09  3:32                         ` john stultz
2004-09-09  4:31                           ` George Anzinger
2004-09-09  6:37                             ` Jesse Barnes
2004-09-09  8:09                               ` George Anzinger
2004-09-09 19:07                             ` john stultz
2004-09-09 20:49                               ` George Anzinger
2004-09-13 21:29                                 ` Christoph Lameter
2004-09-13 22:25                                   ` john stultz
2004-09-13 22:45                                     ` Christoph Lameter
2004-09-14  6:53                                       ` Ulrich Windl
2004-09-14 17:49                                     ` Christoph Lameter
2004-09-15  0:57                                       ` George Anzinger
2004-09-15  3:32                                         ` Christoph Lameter
2004-09-15  8:04                                           ` George Anzinger
2004-09-15  8:54                                             ` Dominik Brodowski
2004-09-15 17:54                                               ` George Anzinger
2004-09-15  9:12                                             ` Andi Kleen
2004-09-15 15:46                                             ` Christoph Lameter
2004-09-15 18:00                                               ` George Anzinger [this message]
2004-09-15 18:28                                                 ` Christoph Lameter
2004-09-15  6:46                                         ` Christoph Lameter
2004-09-15 16:32                                           ` john stultz
2004-09-15 16:46                                             ` Christoph Lameter
2004-09-15 17:13                                               ` john stultz
2004-09-15 17:30                                                 ` Christoph Lameter
2004-09-15 18:48                                                   ` john stultz
2004-09-15 19:58                                                     ` George Anzinger
2004-09-15 20:20                                                     ` Christoph Lameter
2004-09-16  7:02                                                     ` Ulrich Windl
2004-09-03 19:18       ` john stultz
2004-09-02 22:09 ` [RFC] New Time of day proposal (updated 9/2/04) Christoph Lameter
2004-09-02 22:22   ` john stultz
2004-09-02 22:47     ` Christoph Lameter
2004-09-03  9:54 ` Dominik Brodowski
2004-09-03 19:41   ` john stultz
2004-09-03 20:26     ` Dominik Brodowski
2004-09-03 21:05       ` john stultz
2004-09-06  6:26       ` Ulrich Windl
2004-09-06 11:56         ` Alan Cox
2004-09-07 16:14         ` Christoph Lameter
2004-09-03 15:17 ` Andi Kleen
2004-09-03 20:11   ` john stultz
2004-09-04 13:00     ` Andi Kleen
2004-09-07 16:10       ` Christoph Lameter
2004-09-07 18:24         ` George Anzinger
2004-09-07 20:55           ` Christoph Lameter
2004-09-07 21:42             ` George Anzinger
2004-09-08  6:26           ` Ulrich Windl
2004-09-08 18:25       ` john stultz
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     [not found] ` <1094224071.431.7758.camel@cube>
2004-09-06  6:08   ` [RFC][PATCH] new timeofday core subsystem (v.A0) Ulrich Windl
2004-09-12 17:11     ` Albert Cahalan

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