From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
To: "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, paul@clubi.ie, netdev@oss.sgi.com,
leonid.grossman@s2io.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: The ultimate TOE design
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 17:23:49 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4148B2E5.50106@pobox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040915141346.5c5e5377.davem@davemloft.net>
David S. Miller wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 17:08:18 -0400
> Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>
>>There's nothing inherently wrong with sticking a computer running
>>Linux inside another computer ;-)
>
>
> And we already support that :-)
>
> Plus we have things like TSO too but that doesn't require a full Linux
> instance to realize on a networking port.
> Simple silicon implements this already.
> I don't see how that differs from your "big MTU" ideas.
Part of this is about how to talk to business people.... marketing.
The typical definition of TOE is "offload 90+% of the net stack", as
opposed to "TCP assist", which is stuff like TSO.
If people ask about how to support TOE in Linux, you can say "sure, we
_already_ support TOE, just stick Linux on a PCI card" rather than "no
we don't support it."
And wha-la, we support TOE with zero code changes ;-)
Jeff, who would love to have a bunch of Athlons
on PCI cards to play with.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-09-15 21:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-09-15 19:33 The ultimate TOE design Jeff Garzik
2004-09-15 20:04 ` Paul Jakma
2004-09-15 19:14 ` Alan Cox
2004-09-15 20:41 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-09-15 21:01 ` David S. Miller
2004-09-15 21:08 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-09-15 21:13 ` David S. Miller
2004-09-15 21:23 ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2004-09-15 21:29 ` David S. Miller
2004-09-15 22:26 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-09-15 23:29 ` Leonid Grossman
2004-09-24 13:07 ` Lennert Buytenhek
2004-09-24 13:21 ` Leonid Grossman
2004-09-24 18:09 ` Lennert Buytenhek
2004-09-24 19:39 ` Joel Jaeggli
2004-09-16 0:57 ` jamal
2004-09-16 5:25 ` Leonid Grossman
2004-09-16 9:57 ` jamal
2004-09-16 14:57 ` Leonid Grossman
2004-09-16 9:29 ` Lincoln Dale
2004-09-16 12:19 ` Alan Cox
2004-09-16 13:33 ` Andi Kleen
2004-09-16 12:57 ` Alan Cox
2004-09-16 22:37 ` Lincoln Dale
2004-09-17 13:38 ` Jörn Engel
2004-09-15 22:31 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-09-15 21:15 ` Michael Richardson
2004-09-15 20:53 ` David S. Miller
2004-09-16 1:05 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-15 21:10 ` David Lang
2004-09-15 23:05 ` Paul Jakma
2004-09-15 20:26 ` Neil Horman
2004-09-15 21:03 ` Wes Felter
2004-09-15 21:15 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-09-15 21:35 ` Wes Felter
2004-09-15 21:42 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-09-15 21:25 ` Imran Badr
2004-09-15 21:25 ` Imran Badr
2004-09-16 11:37 ` Neil Horman
2004-09-16 5:51 ` Matt Porter
2004-09-15 21:36 ` Deepak Saxena
2004-09-15 23:03 ` Paul Jakma
2004-09-24 13:11 ` Lennert Buytenhek
2004-09-15 21:59 ` Tony Lee
2004-09-15 20:11 ` David Stevens
2004-09-15 20:16 ` David Schwartz
2004-09-15 20:25 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-09-15 20:54 ` Neil Horman
2004-09-15 20:31 ` Bill Rugolsky Jr.
2004-09-15 21:41 ` Joel Jaeggli
2004-09-16 6:33 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-09-17 6:46 ` Eric Mudama
2004-09-17 14:15 ` Alan Cox
2004-09-17 20:27 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-09-17 20:36 ` David Lang
2004-09-17 23:20 ` Tony Lee
2004-09-17 23:36 ` Leonid Grossman
2004-09-22 23:25 ` Eric Mudama
2004-09-15 21:36 ` John Heffner
2004-09-15 21:46 ` David S. Miller
2004-09-16 6:20 ` Andi Kleen
2004-09-16 13:10 ` Leonid Grossman
2004-09-16 16:18 ` Nivedita Singhvi
2004-09-16 20:34 ` Leonid Grossman
2004-09-22 20:18 ` Nivedita Singhvi
2004-09-23 4:46 ` Leonid Grossman
2004-09-15 23:16 ` James Morris
2004-09-15 23:37 ` Leonid Grossman
2004-09-15 23:52 ` John Heffner
2004-09-16 1:43 ` James Morris
2004-09-16 9:03 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
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