From: Steven Pratt <slpratt@austin.ibm.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH/RFC] Simplified Readahead
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 10:39:23 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4158342B.4020505@austin.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040924160147.27dbc589.akpm@osdl.org>
Andrew Morton wrote:
>Steven Pratt <slpratt@austin.ibm.com> wrote:
>
>
>>>It's an application-specified readahead hint. It should ideally be
>>>asynchronous so the application can get some I/O underway while it's
>>>crunching on something else. If the queue is contested then the
>>>application will accidentally block when launching the readahead, which
>>>kinda defeats the purpose.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>posix_fadvise(POSIX_FADV_WILLNEED) is used by applications to tell the
>>>kernel that the application will need that part of the file in the future.
>>>Presumably, the application has something else to be going on with
>>>meanwhile. Hence the application doesn't want to block.
>>>
>>>
Ok, got it.
>>>Yes, the application will block when it does the subsequent read() anyway,
>>>but applications expect to block in read(). Seems saner this way.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>Just to be sure I have this correct, the readahead code will be invoked
>>once on the POSIX_FADV_WILLNEED request, but this looks mostly like a
>>regular read, and then again for the same pages on a real read?
>>
>>
>
>
>yup. POSIX_FADV_WILLNEED should just populate pagecache and should launch
>asynchronous I/O.
>
Well then this could cause problems (other than congestion) on both the
current and new code since both will effectivly see 2 reads, the second
of which may appear to be a seek backwards thus confusing the code
slightly. Would it be best to just special case the POSIX_FADV_WILLNEED
and issue the I/O required (via do_page_cache_readahead) without
updating any of the window or current page offset information ? Of
course adding the neccesary check for queue congestion.
Steve
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-09-27 15:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-09-23 16:06 [PATCH/RFC] Simplified Readahead Steven Pratt
2004-09-23 22:14 ` Joel Schopp
2004-09-24 0:21 ` Nick Piggin
2004-09-24 2:42 ` Andrew Morton
2004-09-24 15:40 ` Steven Pratt
2004-09-24 16:16 ` Nick Piggin
2004-09-24 16:48 ` Steven Pratt
2004-09-24 22:05 ` Andrew Morton
2004-09-24 22:43 ` Steven Pratt
2004-09-24 23:01 ` Andrew Morton
2004-09-27 15:39 ` Steven Pratt [this message]
2004-09-27 19:26 ` Andrew Morton
2004-09-28 10:13 ` Jens Axboe
2004-09-24 22:55 ` Steven Pratt
2004-09-27 20:29 ` Ray Bryant
2004-09-27 21:04 ` Steven Pratt
2004-09-25 0:45 ` Nick Piggin
2004-09-25 1:01 ` Ram Pai
2004-09-25 6:07 ` Ram Pai
2004-09-27 15:30 ` Steven Pratt
2004-09-27 18:42 ` Ram Pai
2004-09-27 20:07 ` Steven Pratt
2004-09-29 18:46 ` Ram Pai
2004-09-29 22:33 ` Steven Pratt
2004-09-29 23:13 ` Andreas Dilger
2004-09-30 2:26 ` Ram Pai
2004-09-30 5:29 ` Andrew Morton
2004-09-30 20:20 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-09-30 1:12 ` Ram Pai
2004-10-01 21:02 ` Steven Pratt
2004-10-05 17:52 ` Ram Pai
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2004-09-24 5:00 ` Peter Chubb
2004-09-24 22:57 ` Steven Pratt
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