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Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 19:43:53 +0200 Sender: alsa-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net Message-ID: <415C45D9.401@icem.com> References: <2004WQdvQh10NQC1Jjv.wm2ZaVFIdjIkUzUSUFunRfL.qmail@webeMutxHWGhe8JTZRleXYrN5VpdkWuXOykxaPyV.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: In-Reply-To: <2004WQdvQh10NQC1Jjv.wm2ZaVFIdjIkUzUSUFunRfL.qmail@webeMutxHWGhe8JTZRleXYrN5VpdkWuXOykxaPyV.mail.yahoo.com> Errors-To: alsa-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: To: alsa-devel@lists.sourceforge.net List-Id: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org It appears I am receiving more spam via Alsa-devel these days than via the rest of my mail together (I am using this http://angel.net/~nic/spam-x.html against spam, which is very effective, but totally helpless against spam posted to a list I am subscribed to). I wonder why the list accepts postings from non-subscribers. I will unsubscribe now. Could any kind soul please inform me when the issue is resolved? I will re-subscribe then. Thanks and cheers, Carsten. ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IT Product Guide on ITManagersJournal Use IT products in your business? Tell us what you think of them. Give us Your Opinions, Get Free ThinkGeek Gift Certificates! Click to find out more http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/guidepromo.tmpl From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Lee Revell Subject: Re: Spam on Alsa-devel. Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 14:25:10 -0400 Sender: alsa-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net Message-ID: <1096568710.24868.6.camel@krustophenia.net> References: <2004WQdvQh10NQC1Jjv.wm2ZaVFIdjIkUzUSUFunRfL.qmail@webeMutxHWGhe8JTZRleXYrN5VpdkWuXOykxaPyV.mail.yahoo.com> <415C45D9.401@icem.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: In-Reply-To: <415C45D9.401@icem.com> Errors-To: alsa-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: To: Carsten Koch Cc: alsa-devel List-Id: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org On Thu, 2004-09-30 at 13:43, Carsten Koch wrote: > It appears I am receiving more spam via Alsa-devel these days > than via the rest of my mail together (I am using this > http://angel.net/~nic/spam-x.html against spam, which is very > effective, but totally helpless against spam posted to a > list I am subscribed to). > > I wonder why the list accepts postings from non-subscribers. > We have to allow nonsubscribers to post because the kernel developers need to be able to cc: alsa-devel. The problem is inadequate spam filtering on the server. I would imagine Jaroslav has notified SourceForge of the problem. In the meantime, just filter the messages on spam score. SF's mail servers do assign a spam score, but the cutoff threshold is too low. > I will unsubscribe now. > Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. Lee ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IT Product Guide on ITManagersJournal Use IT products in your business? Tell us what you think of them. Give us Your Opinions, Get Free ThinkGeek Gift Certificates! Click to find out more http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/guidepromo.tmpl From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Lee Revell Subject: Re: Spam on Alsa-devel. Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 17:11:58 -0400 Sender: alsa-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net Message-ID: <1096578718.24868.11.camel@krustophenia.net> References: <2004WQdvQh10NQC1Jjv.wm2ZaVFIdjIkUzUSUFunRfL.qmail@webeMutxHWGhe8JTZRleXYrN5VpdkWuXOykxaPyV.mail.yahoo.com> <415C45D9.401@icem.com> <1096568710.24868.6.camel@krustophenia.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: In-Reply-To: <1096568710.24868.6.camel@krustophenia.net> Errors-To: alsa-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: To: Carsten Koch Cc: alsa-devel List-Id: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org On Thu, 2004-09-30 at 14:25, Lee Revell wrote: > On Thu, 2004-09-30 at 13:43, Carsten Koch wrote: > > It appears I am receiving more spam via Alsa-devel these days > > than via the rest of my mail together (I am using this > > http://angel.net/~nic/spam-x.html against spam, which is very > > effective, but totally helpless against spam posted to a > > list I am subscribed to). > > > > I wonder why the list accepts postings from non-subscribers. > > > > We have to allow nonsubscribers to post because the kernel developers > need to be able to cc: alsa-devel. The problem is inadequate spam > filtering on the server. I would imagine Jaroslav has notified > SourceForge of the problem. > > In the meantime, just filter the messages on spam score. SF's mail > servers do assign a spam score, but the cutoff threshold is too low. Actually if you look at the headers of the spam, there's an X-Spam-Report header that gives you a URL to report problems with the spamassassin filtering. The last spam I got has a spam score of only 2.1, so the system definitely is not perfect. Just report the problem using the URL in the X-Spam-Report header. Lee ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IT Product Guide on ITManagersJournal Use IT products in your business? Tell us what you think of them. Give us Your Opinions, Get Free ThinkGeek Gift Certificates! Click to find out more http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/guidepromo.tmpl From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Jaroslav Kysela Subject: Re: Spam on Alsa-devel. Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 08:01:47 +0200 (CEST) Sender: alsa-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net Message-ID: References: <2004WQdvQh10NQC1Jjv.wm2ZaVFIdjIkUzUSUFunRfL.qmail@webeMutxHWGhe8JTZRleXYrN5VpdkWuXOykxaPyV.mail.yahoo.com> <415C45D9.401@icem.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Return-path: In-Reply-To: <415C45D9.401@icem.com> Errors-To: alsa-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: To: Carsten Koch Cc: alsa-devel@lists.sourceforge.net List-Id: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org On Thu, 30 Sep 2004, Carsten Koch wrote: > It appears I am receiving more spam via Alsa-devel these days > than via the rest of my mail together (I am using this > http://angel.net/~nic/spam-x.html against spam, which is very > effective, but totally helpless against spam posted to a > list I am subscribed to). > > I wonder why the list accepts postings from non-subscribers. Because of kernel folks. > I will unsubscribe now. http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=6695&group_id=1#spam_virus Jaroslav ----- Jaroslav Kysela Linux Kernel Sound Maintainer ALSA Project, SUSE Labs ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IT Product Guide on ITManagersJournal Use IT products in your business? Tell us what you think of them. Give us Your Opinions, Get Free ThinkGeek Gift Certificates! Click to find out more http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/guidepromo.tmpl From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: James Courtier-Dutton Subject: Re: Spam on Alsa-devel. Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 09:32:35 +0100 Sender: alsa-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net Message-ID: <415D1623.4060301@superbug.co.uk> References: <2004WQdvQh10NQC1Jjv.wm2ZaVFIdjIkUzUSUFunRfL.qmail@webeMutxHWGhe8JTZRleXYrN5VpdkWuXOykxaPyV.mail.yahoo.com> <415C45D9.401@icem.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: In-Reply-To: Errors-To: alsa-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: To: Jaroslav Kysela Cc: Carsten Koch , alsa-devel@lists.sourceforge.net List-Id: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org Jaroslav Kysela wrote: > On Thu, 30 Sep 2004, Carsten Koch wrote: > > >>It appears I am receiving more spam via Alsa-devel these days >>than via the rest of my mail together (I am using this >>http://angel.net/~nic/spam-x.html against spam, which is very >>effective, but totally helpless against spam posted to a >>list I am subscribed to). >> >>I wonder why the list accepts postings from non-subscribers. > > > Because of kernel folks. > Jaroslav, We can still keep this email list private. All you have to do is select: "Send mail to poster when their posting is held for approval? NO" So, any post by a non-member will have to be authorised, the the authorisation will be quiet. In this way, you can filter out all SPAM manually, so that it does not get posted to the list. If mail is from the kernel mailing list, accept it, if it is from a non-member, manually reject it, saying only members can submit messages. I think that would be acceptable to everyone. I do this for my mailing lists. James ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IT Product Guide on ITManagersJournal Use IT products in your business? Tell us what you think of them. Give us Your Opinions, Get Free ThinkGeek Gift Certificates! Click to find out more http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/guidepromo.tmpl From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Jaroslav Kysela Subject: Re: Spam on Alsa-devel. Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 10:37:04 +0200 (CEST) Sender: alsa-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net Message-ID: References: <2004WQdvQh10NQC1Jjv.wm2ZaVFIdjIkUzUSUFunRfL.qmail@webeMutxHWGhe8JTZRleXYrN5VpdkWuXOykxaPyV.mail.yahoo.com> <415C45D9.401@icem.com> <415D1623.4060301@superbug.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Return-path: In-Reply-To: <415D1623.4060301@superbug.co.uk> Errors-To: alsa-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: To: James Courtier-Dutton Cc: Carsten Koch , alsa-devel@lists.sourceforge.net List-Id: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org On Fri, 1 Oct 2004, James Courtier-Dutton wrote: > So, any post by a non-member will have to be authorised, the the > authorisation will be quiet. > In this way, you can filter out all SPAM manually, so that it does not > get posted to the list. > If mail is from the kernel mailing list, accept it, if it is from a > non-member, manually reject it, saying only members can submit messages. I don't have a power to filter messages every day.. Any volunteer? Jaroslav ----- Jaroslav Kysela Linux Kernel Sound Maintainer ALSA Project, SUSE Labs ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IT Product Guide on ITManagersJournal Use IT products in your business? Tell us what you think of them. Give us Your Opinions, Get Free ThinkGeek Gift Certificates! Click to find out more http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/guidepromo.tmpl From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Florian Schmidt Subject: Re: Spam on Alsa-devel. Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 18:12:28 +0200 Sender: alsa-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net Message-ID: <20041001181228.7c9e28a6@mango.fruits.de> References: <2004WQdvQh10NQC1Jjv.wm2ZaVFIdjIkUzUSUFunRfL.qmail@webeMutxHWGhe8JTZRleXYrN5VpdkWuXOykxaPyV.mail.yahoo.com> <415C45D9.401@icem.com> <415D1623.4060301@superbug.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: In-Reply-To: Errors-To: alsa-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: To: Jaroslav Kysela Cc: James Courtier-Dutton , Carsten Koch , alsa-devel@lists.sourceforge.net List-Id: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 10:37:04 +0200 (CEST) Jaroslav Kysela wrote: > On Fri, 1 Oct 2004, James Courtier-Dutton wrote: > > > So, any post by a non-member will have to be authorised, the the > > authorisation will be quiet. > > In this way, you can filter out all SPAM manually, so that it does > > not get posted to the list. > > If mail is from the kernel mailing list, accept it, if it is from a > > non-member, manually reject it, saying only members can submit > > messages. > > I don't have a power to filter messages every day.. Any volunteer? couldn't this be automated? every message having lkml somewhere in its headers comes through? everything else from non members not. flo ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IT Product Guide on ITManagersJournal Use IT products in your business? Tell us what you think of them. Give us Your Opinions, Get Free ThinkGeek Gift Certificates! Click to find out more http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/guidepromo.tmpl From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Lee Revell Subject: Re: Spam on Alsa-devel. Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 13:19:46 -0400 Sender: alsa-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net Message-ID: <1096651186.24868.31.camel@krustophenia.net> References: <2004WQdvQh10NQC1Jjv.wm2ZaVFIdjIkUzUSUFunRfL.qmail@webeMutxHWGhe8JTZRleXYrN5VpdkWuXOykxaPyV.mail.yahoo.com> <415C45D9.401@icem.com> <415D1623.4060301@superbug.co.uk> <20041001181228.7c9e28a6@mango.fruits.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: In-Reply-To: <20041001181228.7c9e28a6@mango.fruits.de> Errors-To: alsa-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: To: Florian Schmidt Cc: Jaroslav Kysela , James Courtier-Dutton , Carsten Koch , alsa-devel List-Id: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org On Fri, 2004-10-01 at 12:12, Florian Schmidt wrote: > On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 10:37:04 +0200 (CEST) > Jaroslav Kysela wrote: > > > On Fri, 1 Oct 2004, James Courtier-Dutton wrote: > > > > > So, any post by a non-member will have to be authorised, the the > > > authorisation will be quiet. > > > In this way, you can filter out all SPAM manually, so that it does > > > not get posted to the list. > > > If mail is from the kernel mailing list, accept it, if it is from a > > > non-member, manually reject it, saying only members can submit > > > messages. > > > > I don't have a power to filter messages every day.. Any volunteer? > > couldn't this be automated? every message having lkml somewhere in its > headers comes through? everything else from non members not. > No, because the message could have come from any of the kernel developers. All this would do is allow any spam to the list to go through as long as LKML was cc:ed. In theory this has a HUGE hole, in practice, maybe it could work well. I still think it's worth a spam here and there to not have to subscribe to a list to post to it. It works for LKML, they do get spammed but only one or two a day. If the one or two spams a day are REALLY intolerable then we should report the problem to sourceforge. Lee ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IT Product Guide on ITManagersJournal Use IT products in your business? Tell us what you think of them. Give us Your Opinions, Get Free ThinkGeek Gift Certificates! Click to find out more http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/guidepromo.tmpl