From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
To: "Moore, Robert" <robert.moore@intel.com>
Cc: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>, "Brown, Len" <len.brown@intel.com>,
"Grover, Andrew" <andrew.grover@intel.com>,
"Therien, Guy" <guy.therien@intel.com>,
"Yu, Luming" <luming.yu@intel.com>,
Bjorn Helgaas <bjorn.helgaas@hp.com>,
Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@hp.com>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
acpi-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: Why ACPI is in the kernel, notes from 2001
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 00:06:02 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4181C1AA.7050004@pobox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <37F890616C995246BE76B3E6B2DBE05502764E54@orsmsx403.amr.corp.intel.com>
Moore, Robert wrote:
> Here's some notes from 2001:
>
> Why ACPI is in the kernel
>
> ACPI and the AML interpreter are required very early during kernel
> initialization, before the device drivers are loaded. Control methods
> are executed by the interpreter at this time (such as all device _INI
> methods).
>
> ACPI owns the ACPI hardware and ACPI interrupt (SCI), and therefore this
> part of the ACPI subsystem is similar to a device driver.
>
> Control methods that are executed via the AML interpreter are allowed
> direct access to all of physical memory, all I/O space, and all PCI
> configuration space (via Operation Regions.)
>
> Device drivers such as the Embedded Controller, Battery, and Thermal use
> ACPI services and execute AML control methods during their operation.
>
> Device driver callback routines are invoked directly from the AML
> interpreter when the ASL Notify operation is executed.
>
> ACPI and the AML interpreter cannot be paged out. How do you wake up
> the disk used for paging? Not a good idea for other device drivers to
> depend on code that may be paged out.
>
> Also,
>
> As of May 2000, the AML interpreter was in acpid! Shortly after that, we
> made a conscious decision to move it into the driver for the reasons
> above. The code may be large (for Linux), but it is necessary and must
> remain resident (it is non-pageable).
None of this implies that the interpreter cannot be in initramfs-like
userspace, which neither requires a device driver nor will ever be paged
out.
Jeff
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-10-29 4:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-10-29 0:17 Why ACPI is in the kernel, notes from 2001 Moore, Robert
2004-10-29 0:17 ` Moore, Robert
2004-10-29 4:06 ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2004-10-29 6:16 ` Oliver Neukum
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