From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: James Courtier-Dutton Subject: Re: The ALSA Situation Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 23:22:24 +0000 Message-ID: <4192A2B0.6090503@superbug.co.uk> References: <200411100150.iAA1okCE029069@localhost.localdomain> <001e01c4c6ce$77672eb0$0a00000a@eugenia> <1100066393.3137.4.camel@krustophenia.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: In-Reply-To: <1100066393.3137.4.camel@krustophenia.net> Sender: alsa-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net Errors-To: alsa-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: To: Lee Revell Cc: Eugenia Loli-Queru , Paul Davis , alsa-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, torvalds@osdl.org List-Id: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org Lee Revell wrote: > On Tue, 2004-11-09 at 18:38 -0800, Eugenia Loli-Queru wrote: > >>2. This: http://www.osnews.com/img/6443/audio.png Check the clean and >>logical OSS options and then check the endless alsa ones (my monitor was not >>wide enough to fit them all). Why things like that are not cleaned up? (it's >>not gnome's volume control fault btw, I asked the developer, he said it's >>Alsa's) > > > Bullshit. If ALSA provides too many controls then GNOME volume control > should abstract them a bit. For example, use separate tabs for playback > and capture, like alsamixer, or leave some elements out, instead of > blithely cramming every mixer element into one tab without regard to > whether it will fit on screen or whether that mixer control SHOULD be > user visible. Sorry, this is not ALSA's job. > > Lee > alsamixer only has separate tabs for playback and capture because someone spent time implementing it. ALSA has a very good API for PCM audio. The plans are ready for creating a very good API for mixer. While the plans have been there for some time now, developer's time has not been available. Unluckily, the current underdevelopment of the mixer parts of ALSA are very much apparent to all users. The work required to support so many different sound cards has been considerable. So, if you ignore the current well understood problems with the mixer, the rest of ALSA is very good. James ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Sybase ASE Linux Express Edition - download now for FREE LinuxWorld Reader's Choice Award Winner for best database on Linux. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=5588&alloc_id=12065&op=click