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From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
To: Luben Tuikov <luben_tuikov@adaptec.com>
Cc: "Salyzyn, Mark" <mark_salyzyn@adaptec.com>,
	SCSI Mailing List <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
	Eric.Moore@lsil.com,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@steeleye.com>
Subject: Re: Serial Attached SCSI Driver Interface (SDI)
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 15:41:10 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <41991466.9060805@pobox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <41990AD4.1060900@adaptec.com>

Luben Tuikov wrote:
> I completely agree with you.  Minimalistic approach is a good thing.
> 
> As to the API: the more reason for knowlegable Linux folks to keep
> an "eye" on SDI and other relevant developing standards.
> This way there'd be yet another voice of experience (Linux).
> 
> Getting the design right is very important.  IMO, I think it'd
> better to have OS independence (SDI) as opposed to "Windows, Linux
> and other OSs are addressed" (pre-SDI).

I would prefer to see how a rough-draft Linux implementation would look 
first.  Otherwise, without an implementation, linux-scsi denizens don't 
really have a basis from which to form design input.  That's really the 
"Internet way" -- form a rough consensus based on [test | production] 
implementations, then write the standard.

This area is also a bit delicate politically, because various companies 
have various bits of "value-add" in their management utils.  This is 
delicate because it clashes with the Linux wish to be vendor-neutral.  A 
vendor-neutral "Linux-ish" management API (be it RAID or SAN or 
whatever) would strongly encourage existence of a vendor-neutral, open 
source management utility.


For a starting point...  basically the problem boils to:  you need a 
control point (/dev node, /sysfs file, ioctl, etc.) that allows you to 
create, destroy, and manipulate nodes [a.k.a. SCSI targets] and node 
attributes.  James seemed to favor creating a few transport classes 
(visible through sysfs) that could act as these control points.

I should dig up a RAID card somewhere, and see what I could do about a 
block-level RAID management API.  (thinking out loud, probably silly)

	Jeff




  reply	other threads:[~2004-11-15 20:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-11-15 17:48 Serial Attached SCSI Driver Interface (SDI) Salyzyn, Mark
2004-11-15 18:01 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-11-15 18:29   ` Luben Tuikov
2004-11-15 18:49     ` Jeff Garzik
2004-11-15 20:00       ` Luben Tuikov
2004-11-15 20:41         ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-11-15 18:14 Salyzyn, Mark
2004-11-15 22:47 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-11-15 17:40 Moore, Eric Dean
2004-11-15 17:22 Luben Tuikov
2004-11-15 17:40 ` Jeff Garzik

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