From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
To: Luben Tuikov <luben_tuikov@adaptec.com>
Cc: "Salyzyn, Mark" <mark_salyzyn@adaptec.com>,
SCSI Mailing List <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
Eric.Moore@lsil.com,
James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@steeleye.com>
Subject: Re: Serial Attached SCSI Driver Interface (SDI)
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 15:41:10 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <41991466.9060805@pobox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <41990AD4.1060900@adaptec.com>
Luben Tuikov wrote:
> I completely agree with you. Minimalistic approach is a good thing.
>
> As to the API: the more reason for knowlegable Linux folks to keep
> an "eye" on SDI and other relevant developing standards.
> This way there'd be yet another voice of experience (Linux).
>
> Getting the design right is very important. IMO, I think it'd
> better to have OS independence (SDI) as opposed to "Windows, Linux
> and other OSs are addressed" (pre-SDI).
I would prefer to see how a rough-draft Linux implementation would look
first. Otherwise, without an implementation, linux-scsi denizens don't
really have a basis from which to form design input. That's really the
"Internet way" -- form a rough consensus based on [test | production]
implementations, then write the standard.
This area is also a bit delicate politically, because various companies
have various bits of "value-add" in their management utils. This is
delicate because it clashes with the Linux wish to be vendor-neutral. A
vendor-neutral "Linux-ish" management API (be it RAID or SAN or
whatever) would strongly encourage existence of a vendor-neutral, open
source management utility.
For a starting point... basically the problem boils to: you need a
control point (/dev node, /sysfs file, ioctl, etc.) that allows you to
create, destroy, and manipulate nodes [a.k.a. SCSI targets] and node
attributes. James seemed to favor creating a few transport classes
(visible through sysfs) that could act as these control points.
I should dig up a RAID card somewhere, and see what I could do about a
block-level RAID management API. (thinking out loud, probably silly)
Jeff
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-11-15 20:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-11-15 17:48 Serial Attached SCSI Driver Interface (SDI) Salyzyn, Mark
2004-11-15 18:01 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-11-15 18:29 ` Luben Tuikov
2004-11-15 18:49 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-11-15 20:00 ` Luben Tuikov
2004-11-15 20:41 ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-11-15 18:14 Salyzyn, Mark
2004-11-15 22:47 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-11-15 17:40 Moore, Eric Dean
2004-11-15 17:22 Luben Tuikov
2004-11-15 17:40 ` Jeff Garzik
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