All of lore.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] dynamic syscalls revisited
Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2004 14:20:12 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <41B4DB1C.3060406@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1102370517.25841.216.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Steven Rostedt wrote:
> 
> I disagree about this statement.  ioctl's suck because they usually have
> none, or very poor documentation and you are stuck with opening devices,
> and sending parameters to them that may be for the wrong device and
> there is really no good checking to see what you sent is what you want
> since its all defined by human unreadable numbers.
> 

That's like saying you might be calling the wrong syscall by accident.

> As for dynamic system calls (and especially the way I've implemented
> them) you have human readable names, with varying amount of parameters
> that can make sense. So even if you still have none to very poor
> documentation, you can understand things perhaps a little better.  There
> is also much better checking in dynamic system calls than to ioctls.

There is NO checking in the syscall interface.  Period.  Any such 
checking is a facility of some kind of stub generator, and that's 
independent of the method used to invoke it.

	-hpa





  reply	other threads:[~2004-12-06 22:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-11-29 15:11 [PATCH][RFC] dynamic syscalls revisited Steven Rostedt
2004-11-29 15:17 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-11-29 15:36   ` Steven Rostedt
2004-11-30 19:30     ` Kristian Sørensen
2004-11-29 16:41   ` [RFC] " Jan Engelhardt
2004-11-29 17:10     ` Steven Rostedt
2004-12-05 23:46       ` Adrian Bunk
2004-12-06 16:07         ` Steven Rostedt
2004-12-06 17:16           ` Steven Rostedt
2004-12-06 17:32             ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2004-12-06 17:57               ` linux-os
2004-12-06 18:03               ` Steven Rostedt
2004-12-06 18:18               ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-12-07  0:20           ` Michael Buesch
2004-12-07  0:57             ` Steven Rostedt
2004-12-06 21:14     ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-12-06 22:01       ` Steven Rostedt
2004-12-06 22:20         ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2004-12-06 22:38           ` Steven Rostedt
2004-12-14 23:14             ` Werner Almesberger
2004-12-15  2:14               ` Steven Rostedt
2004-12-15  3:35                 ` Steven Rostedt

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=41B4DB1C.3060406@zytor.com \
    --to=hpa@zytor.com \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=rostedt@goodmis.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.