From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from jazzdrum.ncsc.mil (zombie.ncsc.mil [144.51.88.131]) by tycho.ncsc.mil (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id iBAE9aIi020313 for ; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 09:09:36 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <41B9AE1D.1020305@redhat.com> Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 09:09:33 -0500 From: Daniel J Walsh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Russell Coker CC: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu, Stephen Smalley , SE Linux list , Jim Carter , Colin Walters , Nalin Dahyabhai Subject: Re: Single home directory type for all roles. References: <20041207000805.GH3678@jmh.mhn.de> <1102534349.30962.25.camel@moss-lions.epoch.ncsc.mil> <41B8826D.30105@redhat.com> <1102612828.32175.159.camel@moss-spartans.epoch.ncsc.mil> <1102614445.4509.25.camel@aeon> <1102614805.32175.176.camel@moss-spartans.epoch.ncsc.mil> <1102615951.4509.50.camel@aeon> <200412092040.iB9KelRx032136@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <1102647815.4509.123.camel@aeon> In-Reply-To: <1102647815.4509.123.camel@aeon> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Sender: owner-selinux@tycho.nsa.gov List-Id: selinux@tycho.nsa.gov Ok I succumb. I will not fight the battle any longer, but I believe that average people will not user roles because it is too difficult. I will not build tools that will automatically relabel the file system since these will be prone to errors. People will run users in the default role of the system, whether we default it to user_r with user_canbe_sysadm, or default to staff. I believe that the only people who will use roles as they are currently constituted are security people. Dan -- This message was distributed to subscribers of the selinux mailing list. If you no longer wish to subscribe, send mail to majordomo@tycho.nsa.gov with the words "unsubscribe selinux" without quotes as the message.