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From: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
To: 7eggert@gmx.de
Cc: Linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: 2.6.9 NAT problem
Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 11:40:54 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <41C85216.1070304@tmr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1CgfT5-0000Zh-00@be1.7eggert.dyndns.org>

Bodo Eggert wrote:
> Bill Davidsen wrote:
> 
>>Antonio Pérez wrote:
> 
> 
>>>add this:
>>>echo 0 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_bic
>>>echo 0 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_ecn
>>>echo 0 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_vegas_conf_avoid
>>
>>I've seen this and similar advice for other problems, and have disabled=
>> 
>>ecn for several systems with networking ailments myself. Would it be
>>better to have some of these off by default rather than have multiple
>>versions of these problems appear into the future?
> 
> 
> Disabeling ecn is a workaround for b0rken firewalls and may result in
> using more bandwidth than nescensary. If disabeling ecn helps, dump the
> firewall and get something that supports basic internet standards (or
> ask the owner to do this).
> 
Like many other parameters, ecn can improve performance but may result 
in a non-functional network. Based on that I still think it's better for 
the default to be "works" and use of ecn or other tuning parameters such 
as reducing timeouts should be "tuning" instead.

Adding a few printk's seems to show that ecn is not so common that it 
needs to be on by default. I suspect that the main use of ecn code is in 
fighting with those broken routers and firewalls rather than improving 
performance.


-- 
    -bill davidsen (davidsen@tmr.com)
"The secret to procrastination is to put things off until the
  last possible moment - but no longer"  -me

  reply	other threads:[~2004-12-21 16:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <fa.en17uqu.1r1odgm@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.b00sk8v.12lus29@ifi.uio.no>
2004-12-21  8:34   ` 2.6.9 NAT problem Bodo Eggert
2004-12-21 16:40     ` Bill Davidsen [this message]
2004-12-13 20:26 Giuliano Pochini
2004-12-13 22:11 ` Antonio Pérez
2004-12-14 21:20   ` Giuliano Pochini
2004-12-16 20:41   ` Bill Davidsen
2004-12-14  9:31 ` Martin Josefsson
2004-12-14  9:53   ` Giuliano Pochini
2004-12-14 21:26   ` Giuliano Pochini
2004-12-15  6:53     ` Martin Josefsson
2004-12-15 19:18       ` Giuliano Pochini

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