From: David Masover <ninja@slaphack.com>
To: Hans Reiser <reiser@namesys.com>
Cc: Job Bob <yzhang2004@yahoo.com>, reiserfs-list@namesys.com
Subject: Re: reiser4 for windows
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:08:52 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <41EC99E4.2050708@slaphack.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <41EBEBF1.1050408@namesys.com>
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Hans Reiser wrote:
| David Masover wrote:
|
|> Hans Reiser wrote:
|> [...]
|> |
|> |>
|> |> To start with, ntfs read access is still case insensitive, last I
|> |> checked. How deep does that go?
|> |
|> |
|> | In reiser4, it is just a directory plugin.
|>
|> Nono -- how do you give Windows, which is case insensitive, access to a
|> case-sensitive filesystem? For instance, how do you get a Windows-based
|> backup program to back up a reiser4 partition from a Linux installation,
|> if it has filenames that are identical except for case?
|
|
| This problem is insoluble. Either make reiser4 case insensitive and use
| it that way or educate the windows programs or live with bugs. I see no
| alternative. Do you?
Mangling. Or case-sensitivity (forget who said that NTFS has that). Or
force case-insensitive FSes only. I think all three would work in
different situations, and I don't think it would be too difficult to add
all three.
Just for clarification -- mangling is how VFAT is backwards-compatible
with DOS, for example. myreallylongfile.doc becomes MYREAL~1.DOC when
viewed from DOS, so that while VFAT should really be read with Windows
95 or better (Linux), it can still be accessed in Dos.
This loses information (if a DOS program backs up and restores
MYREAL~1.DOC, you lose the long (myreallylongfile.doc) name.) But
sometimes there's no alternative, and if you mangle it (instead of just
chopping off the end of the filename) you avoid collisions -- that is,
if you have:
myreallylongfile.doc
myreallife.doc
then they become
MYREAL~1.DOC
MYREAL~2.DOC
Only question is, where to set which of these to choose (mangle or case
sensitivity)? Maybe it could be per-directory, most likely per-mount.
But I have no idea how Windows passes mount options ... I don't think it
has any mount options at all.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-01-18 5:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-12-04 21:10 reiser4 for windows Job Bob
2004-12-05 1:57 ` Hans Reiser
2004-12-05 4:00 ` Hans Reiser
2004-12-05 4:54 ` David Masover
2004-12-07 8:28 ` Redeeman
2004-12-08 0:51 ` Philip Miller
2005-01-26 19:27 ` Marcus Furlong
2005-01-16 2:39 ` Hans Reiser
2005-01-16 6:07 ` David Masover
2005-01-17 16:46 ` Hans Reiser
2005-01-17 17:12 ` Christian Iversen
2005-01-18 16:37 ` Hans Reiser
2005-02-01 8:52 ` mjt
2005-02-01 9:59 ` Christian Iversen
2005-02-02 1:18 ` David Masover
2005-02-02 8:02 ` Christian Iversen
2005-01-18 5:08 ` David Masover [this message]
2005-01-18 17:03 ` Hans Reiser
2004-12-05 8:14 ` Dr. Giovanni A. Orlando
2004-12-05 7:37 ` David Masover
2004-12-06 2:31 ` Jonathan Briggs
2004-12-06 4:17 ` Tierra
2004-12-06 14:55 ` Dr. Giovanni A. Orlando
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-12-07 6:07 Jiri Klouda
2004-12-07 8:29 ` Redeeman
2004-12-08 1:40 ` Spam
2004-12-08 4:38 ` David Masover
2004-12-08 7:50 ` Radovan Garabik
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