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From: Mike Waychison <Michael.Waychison@Sun.COM>
To: Ian Kent <raven@themaw.net>
Cc: autofs mailing list <autofs@linux.kernel.org>,
	David Meleedy <david.meleedy@analog.com>
Subject: Re: BUG: autofs4 + cd /net/<Netapp>/vol/vol[0-3] = port usage problems
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 12:32:29 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <41ED482D.8090203@sun.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0501190101000.5388@raven-wl.themaw.net>

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Ian Kent wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Jan 2005, Jeff Moyer wrote:
> 
> 
>>==> Regarding Re: [autofs] BUG: autofs4 + cd /net/<Netapp>/vol/vol[0-3] = port  usage problems; Ian Kent <raven@themaw.net> adds:
>>
>>raven> On Mon, 17 Jan 2005, Jeff Moyer wrote:
>>
>>>>==> Regarding Re: [autofs] BUG: autofs4 + cd /net/<Netapp>/vol/vol[0-3]
>>>>= port usage problems; raven@themaw.net adds:
>>>>
>>
>>raven> On Fri, 14 Jan 2005, David Meleedy wrote:
>>
>>>>>>Ian, I have installed the multi-over patch into our version of the >>
>>>>
>>>>automounter 4.1.3-67 (with updated large-program-map patch) and so far
>>>>
>>>>>>everything looks great!  I am going to test our machines for a longer
>>>>>>period of time and make sure everything looks stable, but so far, so
>>>>>>good!
>>>>
>>raven> That sounds very encouraging. Great!
>>
>>>>Very encouraging indeed.  Good catch, Ian!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>It seems to have eliminated the "BUG" message in the messages file,
>>>>
>>>>and >> it seems as though the automounter can unmount /net/aflac which
>>>>it was >> not able to do in the past during a reboot.  I suspect that
>>>>this means >> it will use a lot less ports, and I might not even need
>>>>the kernel patch >> (given the small amount of mounts we actually use)
>>>>-- I am testing this >> as well.
>>>>
>>
>>raven> The BUG messages were placed there to identify this happening as
>>raven> this problem has come up in various forms several times.
>>
>>raven> In this case it appears to be caused by the order in which the
>>raven> mounts are done (ie. received from auto.net). Given that current
>>raven> autofs implementation of multi-mounts must handle them as a single
>>raven> unit, nested filesystem mounts, made in the wrong order, cause
>>raven> overmounting which caused the umount problem.
>>
>>raven> Perhaps.
>>
>>raven> Depends on whether the mount program has the patch which probes the
>>raven> NFS server. The port usage problem still remains and I expect it
>>raven> will continue to cause problems for us one way or another. Hopefully
>>raven> it will be addressed in the near future.
>>
>>>>Hmm, I wonder what probing it actually does.  I'll have a look and see
>>>>if we can change the probe code to use non-reserved ports.
>>
>>raven> I looked at the code in an FC2 mount and found that it did quite a
>>raven> bit of probing.
>>
>>[snip]
>>
>>raven> This just means that we need to get a handle on the objections to
>>raven> RPC transport multiplexing and get it done.
>>
>>I forwarded Mike's patch off to Steve Dickson.  However, with the caveats
>>he listed, I'm not optimistic.
> 
> 
> Neither am I. The patch that Trond originally did is probably a better 
> starting point.

Which patches are we referring to by chance?  I'm guessing the xprt
stuff?   I don't know of Trond's patches that do the same.

> 
> There's quite a bit to do meantime such as, general testing, scalability 
> testing, dynamically allocating a new transport if a request slot can't be 
> allocated and so on.
> 
> There will be quite a bit more discussion on this I expect.
> 
> What is Steves responsibility here?
> 
> Ian
> 
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-01-18 17:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-01-11 21:22 BUG: autofs4 + cd /net/<Netapp>/vol/vol[0-3] = port usage problems David Meleedy
2005-01-12  5:38 ` Ian Kent
2005-01-12 16:55   ` Mike Waychison
2005-01-12 20:43     ` David Meleedy
2005-01-13  0:37     ` David Meleedy
2005-01-13  1:05       ` Mike Waychison
2005-01-13  1:07       ` Ian Kent
2005-01-14 14:35       ` raven
2005-01-14 22:38         ` David Meleedy
2005-01-15  2:50           ` raven
2005-01-17 14:52             ` Jeff Moyer
2005-01-18  1:31               ` Ian Kent
2005-01-18 14:18                 ` Jeff Moyer
2005-01-18 17:00                   ` Ian Kent
2005-01-18 17:05                     ` Jeff Moyer
2005-01-19  1:25                       ` Ian Kent
2005-01-18 14:20                 ` Jeff Moyer
2005-01-18 17:04                   ` Ian Kent
2005-01-18 17:07                     ` Jeff Moyer
2005-01-18 17:32                     ` Mike Waychison [this message]
2005-01-19  4:21                       ` Ian Kent
2005-01-19  5:00                         ` Re: [autofs] " Trond Myklebust
2005-01-17 14:01         ` raven
2005-01-17 16:19           ` David Meleedy
2005-01-18  1:33             ` Ian Kent
2005-01-13  8:13     ` Ian Kent
2005-01-12 14:50 ` raven
2005-01-12 22:22   ` David Meleedy
2005-01-12 23:01     ` Jeff Moyer
2005-01-12 16:13 ` Dwight Marzolf
2005-01-12 20:55   ` David Meleedy
2005-08-25 22:14 ` Rob Sims
2005-08-26  3:44   ` Ian Kent
2005-08-26 16:14     ` Rob Sims
2005-08-27  3:34       ` Ian Kent
2005-08-29 15:20         ` Rob Sims
2005-08-30  1:16           ` Ian Kent

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