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From: Andrew Theurer <habanero@us.ibm.com>
To: Sean Harper <harper@longworth.com>
Cc: "-devel@lists.sourceforge.net" <xen-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: xen and virtual iron
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 09:57:49 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <42136D7D.5000904@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <39A29C55BDB6914698687BC15B2D2EAAE6D49D@lvp1.longworth.com>

Sean Harper wrote:

>At Linuxworld a company called Virtual Iron is demoing a product that,
>like Xen or VMWare, can break physical machines into virtual machines.
>
>However, unlike Xen or VMWare, this product can also aggregate physical
>machines into virtual machines.  In other words, it is possible for the
>user to specify that 3.5 cpus from 2 machines (2 from 1 and 1.5 from
>another) be assigned to a virtual machine. When linux boots on that
>virtual machine it simply looks like a 4 cpu machine (but 1 of the cpus
>is slower). Presumably there is a pretty big performance penalty for
>sharing across machines, which they mitigate to some extent by requiring
>Infiniband.
>
>It seems like most of the tricky work is around caching to optimize the
>performance across the slower communication bus (when sharing between
>machines).
>  
>
Hmm, sounds like a NUMA system, with a relatively low throughput and 
high latency interconnect.   Not sure if anyone would want to do this on 
a workload where performance matters.

I suppose with a layer of abstraction like Xen, doing something like 
this is feasible.  You could leverage the NUMA code in the linux kernel, 
but I would think you would need a very highly parallel workload to make 
this effective, and if you have that, a cluster setup would probably 
work just as well anyway.

-Andrew Theurer


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  reply	other threads:[~2005-02-16 15:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 3+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-02-16 15:00 xen and virtual iron Sean Harper
2005-02-16 15:57 ` Andrew Theurer [this message]
2005-02-16 22:29   ` Moshe Bar

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