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From: Jay Lan <jlan@sgi.com>
To: Tim Schmielau <tim@physik3.uni-rostock.de>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Kaigai Kohei <kaigai@ak.jp.nec.com>,
	lse-tech@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	guillaume.thouvenin@bull.net, erikj@subway.americas.sgi.com,
	jbarnes@sgi.com
Subject: Re: [Lse-tech] Re: A common layer for Accounting packages
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 14:27:31 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <421E54D3.8060903@sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.53.0502231041450.19035@gockel.physik3.uni-rostock.de>

Tim Schmielau wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Feb 2005, Andrew Morton wrote:
> 
> 
>>We really want to avoid doing such stuff in-kernel if at all possible, of
>>course.
>>
>>Is it not possible to implement the fork/exec/exit notifications to
>>userspace so that a daemon can track the process relationships and perform
>>aggregation based upon individual tasks' accounting?  That's what one of
>>the accounting systems is proposing doing, I believe.
>>
>>(In fact, why do we even need the notifications?  /bin/ps can work this
>>stuff out).
> 
> 
> 
> I had started a proof of concept implementation that could reconstruct the 
> whole process tree from userspace just from the BSD accounting currently 
> in the kernel (+ the conceptual bug-fix that I misnamed "[RFC] "biological 
> parent" pid"). This could do the whole job ID thing from userspace.
> Unfortunately, I haven't had time to work on it recently.
> 
> Also, doing per-job accounting might actually be more lightweight than 
> per-process accounting, so I'm not at all opposed to unifying CSA and BSD 
> accounting into one mechanism that just writes different file formats.

Thanks, Tim!

After spending some time studying how ELSA works, it appeared to me
that CSA still needs a hook for do_exit. Since people agreed that
a complete framework was an overkill, i would be glad to submit
another patch later just to provide a CSA exit-handling inside the
acct_process().

Thanks,
  - jay

> 
> A complete framework seems like overkill to me, too.
> 
> Tim
> 
> 
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  reply	other threads:[~2005-02-24 22:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-02-19  0:51 A common layer for Accounting packages Jay Lan
2005-02-19  1:16 ` Andrew Morton
2005-02-21  6:51   ` Guillaume Thouvenin
2005-02-22 20:11     ` [Lse-tech] " Jay Lan
2005-02-23  7:30       ` Guillaume Thouvenin
2005-02-21  7:54   ` Kaigai Kohei
2005-02-22 20:26     ` Jay Lan
2005-02-23  7:07       ` Kaigai Kohei
2005-02-23  7:20         ` Andrew Morton
2005-02-23  8:33           ` Guillaume Thouvenin
2005-02-23  8:51             ` Andrew Morton
2005-02-23  9:30               ` Guillaume Thouvenin
2005-02-23  9:36                 ` Andrew Morton
2005-02-23 19:11             ` Jay Lan
2005-02-24  7:42               ` Guillaume Thouvenin
2005-02-23  9:50           ` Tim Schmielau
2005-02-24 22:27             ` Jay Lan [this message]
2005-02-23 11:29           ` Kaigai Kohei
2005-02-23 20:48         ` Jay Lan
2005-02-25  5:07           ` Kaigai Kohei
2005-02-25  5:28             ` Andrew Morton
2005-02-25 17:32               ` Jay Lan
2005-02-25 17:45                 ` Chris Wright
2005-02-25 18:11                   ` Jay Lan
2005-02-25 21:30                 ` Andrew Morton
2005-02-25 22:18                   ` Jay Lan
2005-02-27  9:49               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2005-02-27 15:20                 ` KaiGai Kohei
2005-02-27 14:03                   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2005-02-27 19:27                     ` David S. Miller
2005-02-28  1:59                     ` Kaigai Kohei
2005-02-28  1:59                       ` Kaigai Kohei
2005-02-28  2:32                       ` [Lse-tech] " Thomas Graf
2005-02-28  5:17                       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-02-28  5:17                         ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-02-28  7:20                       ` [Lse-tech] " Guillaume Thouvenin
2005-02-28  7:39                         ` Andrew Morton
2005-02-28  8:04                           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-02-28 12:10                           ` jamal
2005-02-28  9:29                             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2005-02-28  9:29                               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2005-02-28 13:20                             ` [Lse-tech] " Thomas Graf
2005-02-28 13:40                               ` jamal
2005-02-28 13:53                                 ` Thomas Graf
2005-02-28  9:52                                   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2005-02-28 14:10                                   ` jamal
2005-02-28 14:25                                     ` Thomas Graf
2005-02-28 15:31                                       ` jamal
2005-02-28 16:17                                         ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-02-28 16:17                                           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-03-01  8:21                                           ` [Lse-tech] " Guillaume Thouvenin
2005-03-01 13:38                                             ` Kaigai Kohei
2005-03-01 13:53                                               ` Guillaume Thouvenin
2005-03-01 14:17                                                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-03-02  4:50                                               ` Paul Jackson
2005-03-02  8:58                                               ` Guillaume Thouvenin
2005-03-02  9:06                                                 ` Andrew Morton
2005-03-02  9:25                                                   ` Guillaume Thouvenin
2005-03-02 15:30                                                   ` Paul Jackson
2005-03-01 20:40                             ` Paul Jackson
2005-02-24  1:25         ` Paul Jackson
2005-02-24  1:56           ` Jay Lan
2005-02-24  2:07             ` Paul Jackson

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