From: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>
To: Harry Butterworth <harry@hebutterworth.freeserve.co.uk>
Cc: Keir Fraser <Keir.Fraser@cl.cam.ac.uk>,
Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
Jeremy Katz <katzj@redhat.com>,
Xen Mailing List <xen-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: Proposal for init/kexec/hotplug format for Xen
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 12:24:58 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4222107A.1010902@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1109527920.9623.57.camel@localhost>
Harry Butterworth wrote:
>>We could begin work today on libxen-hcall and libxen-idc while we work
>>out what the store is going to like and how the OF structure is going to
>>work. Thoughts?
>>
>>
>
>The most difficult aspect of the inter-domain communication API to
>express from the point of view of forwards compatibility with a
>fault-tolerant implementation is that, in a fault-tolerant system with
>different levels of fault tolerance, some domains will come and go
>whilst others persist across failures.
>
>
>
I'm not sure fault-tolerance has to be implemented at the IDC primative
level. That seems like something that's implemented at a slightly
higher-level in the stack.
For instance, I'm not sure how to even think about what a fault-tolerant
semaphore would be however I can certainly imagine being able to
implement a fault-tolerant protocol that uses semaphores and shared memory.
I think fault-tolerant primatives can quite comfortably sit on top of
lower-level primatives. My initial reaction is that a fault-tolerant
primative is going to have a fair bit of overhead. I think the
interface is going to be fairly different too. I'm not sure you want to
pay the price of transparent fault-tolerance in all circumstances.
It would probably be better to expect to implement a separate set of
fault tolerant devices and just design the non-tolerant devices for
maximum code-reuse.
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-02-27 18:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-02-26 20:57 Proposal for init/kexec/hotplug format for Xen Rusty Russell
2005-02-27 10:53 ` Keir Fraser
2005-02-27 11:46 ` Rusty Russell
2005-02-27 15:25 ` Anthony Liguori
2005-02-27 15:48 ` Keir Fraser
2005-02-27 15:54 ` Anthony Liguori
2005-02-27 16:09 ` Keir Fraser
2005-02-27 16:16 ` Anthony Liguori
2005-02-27 16:31 ` Harry Butterworth
2005-02-27 16:42 ` Anthony Liguori
2005-02-27 17:32 ` Keir Fraser
2005-02-27 17:59 ` Anthony Liguori
2005-02-27 18:12 ` Harry Butterworth
2005-02-27 18:24 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2005-02-27 18:55 ` Harry Butterworth
2005-02-27 18:57 ` Keir Fraser
2005-02-27 19:10 ` Anthony Liguori
2005-02-27 21:49 ` Keir Fraser
2005-02-27 22:39 ` Anthony Liguori
2005-02-27 23:29 ` Harry Butterworth
2005-02-28 8:59 ` Keir Fraser
2005-02-27 19:38 ` Harry Butterworth
2005-02-27 16:05 ` Harry Butterworth
2005-02-28 12:06 ` Rusty Russell
2005-02-28 15:46 ` Anthony Liguori
2005-02-28 20:28 ` Jeremy Katz
2005-02-28 22:24 ` Harry Butterworth
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-02-28 13:08 Re: " harry
2005-02-28 13:32 ` Rusty Russell
2005-02-28 13:40 ` Harry Butterworth
2005-02-28 14:33 ` Keir Fraser
2005-02-28 16:46 ` Re: " Rusty Russell
2005-03-01 13:15 ` Harry Butterworth
2005-03-01 15:08 ` Keir Fraser
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