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From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
To: Quantum Scientific <Info@quantum-sci.com>
Cc: netdev@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: Kernel 2.6 IPV6 Busted
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 13:59:35 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <42221897.4000704@pobox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200502271220.06560.Info@quantum-sci.com>

Quantum Scientific wrote:
> On Sunday 27 February 2005 11:40, Andre Tomt wrote:
> 
>>Connection tracking (as in stateful firewalling) do not a useful ipv6 
>>stack make.. The stack works fine, at least the stack provided in 2.6 
>>kernels.
> 
> ...
> 
>>You seem to be fixed on the idea that a ipv6 stack has to have stateful 
>>firewalling, or else its utter crap, correct? :-)
> 
> 
> No, I'll try to say this clearer.
> 
> The stack works fine in.  And out.  But for a useful virtual circuit you must 
> have something like connection tracking.
> 
> Remember what my issue is:  
> - I have a very tight firewall,
> - I ping6 out,
> - The firewall blocks the reply back, because the connection is stateless!
> - Same with http, etc.
> 
> This means that I have to open for incoming, virtually every port I send 
> outgoing to, or else I do not get any replies. This is what I call 
> non-functional, because one does not open incoming ports, for the most part.
> 
> Why are you not having this problem?

Connection tracking doesn't scale.  It's impossible to hash the entire 
Internet.

	Jeff

  reply	other threads:[~2005-02-27 18:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-02-27 15:28 Kernel 2.6 IPV6 Busted Quantum Scientific
2005-02-27 16:10 ` YOSHIFUJI Hideaki / 吉藤英明
2005-02-27 16:29   ` Quantum Scientific
2005-02-27 17:28     ` YOSHIFUJI Hideaki / 吉藤英明
2005-02-27 18:08       ` Quantum Scientific
2005-03-15  5:00     ` Horms
2005-02-27 17:40 ` Andre Tomt
2005-02-27 18:20   ` Quantum Scientific
2005-02-27 18:59     ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2005-02-27 19:10       ` Quantum Scientific
2005-02-27 19:58         ` Jeff Garzik
2005-02-27 20:10           ` Quantum Scientific
2005-02-27 21:35             ` David S. Miller
2005-03-01 10:07               ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-03-01 13:50                 ` Quantum Scientific
2005-03-01 16:26                 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-03-01 20:46                   ` Tomasz Torcz
2005-03-01 23:55                     ` Quantum Scientific
2005-03-02 14:02                   ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-03-02 19:12                     ` Jeff Garzik
2005-03-01 21:50     ` Andre Tomt
2005-03-01 23:59       ` Quantum Scientific
2005-02-27 18:12 ` Jeff Garzik

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