From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
To: mingz@ele.uri.edu
Cc: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
Bryan Henderson <hbryan@us.ibm.com>,
Tomonori Fujita <fujita.tomonori@lab.ntt.co.jp>,
iet-dev <iscsitarget-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
linux-scsi <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] iSCSI enterprise target software
Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2005 14:01:43 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4224BC17.7000103@pobox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1109702911.2878.16.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Ming Zhang wrote:
> On Tue, 2005-03-01 at 13:37, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 2005-03-01 at 10:24 -0800, Bryan Henderson wrote:
>>
>>>One thing that's implicit in your reasons for wanting to be in the kernel
>>>is that you've chosen to exploit the kernel's page cache. As a user of
>>>the page cache, you have more control from inside the kernel than from
>>>user space. The page cache was designed to be fundamentally invisible to
>>>user space.
>>>
>>>A pure user space implementation of an ISCSI target would use process
>>>virtual memory for a cache and manage it itself. It would access the
>>>storage with direct I/O.
>>
>>why would it use direct I/O ? Direct I/O would be really stupid for such
>>a thing to use since that means there's no caching going on *at all*.
>>
>
> what Bryan suggest is a privately owned and managed user space cache. so
> for that disk write should be real write-through.
>
> it is hard to beat linux kernel cache performance though.
A privately managed user space cache uses Linux kernel cache.
As does mmap/sendfile...
Jeff
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-03-01 19:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-03-01 7:19 [ANNOUNCE] iSCSI enterprise target software FUJITA Tomonori
2005-03-01 8:40 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-03-01 9:35 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2005-03-01 9:46 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-03-01 10:22 ` [Iscsitarget-devel] " FUJITA Tomonori
2005-03-01 10:33 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-03-01 10:46 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-03-01 11:23 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2005-03-01 10:48 ` Libor Vanek
2005-03-01 10:51 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-03-01 18:24 ` Bryan Henderson
2005-03-01 18:37 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-03-01 18:48 ` Ming Zhang
2005-03-01 19:01 ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2005-03-01 19:14 ` Ming Zhang
2005-03-01 21:04 ` Bryan Henderson
2005-03-01 21:15 ` Ming Zhang
2005-03-02 18:20 ` Bryan Henderson
2005-03-02 19:34 ` Ming Zhang
2005-03-01 21:16 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-03-02 18:27 ` Bryan Henderson
2005-03-02 3:30 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2005-03-01 20:38 ` Andi Kleen
2005-03-01 20:49 ` Ming Zhang
2005-03-01 22:19 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-03-01 20:53 ` Bryan Henderson
2005-03-01 20:58 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-03-02 10:47 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2005-03-02 18:39 ` Bryan Henderson
2005-03-02 5:04 ` [Iscsitarget-devel] " FUJITA Tomonori
2005-03-02 5:21 ` Dmitry Yusupov
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