From: Jay Lan <jlan@engr.sgi.com>
To: Paul Jackson <pj@engr.sgi.com>
Cc: Guillaume Thouvenin <guillaume.thouvenin@bull.net>,
johnpol@2ka.mipt.ru, akpm@osdl.org, greg@kroah.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, efocht@hpce.nec.com,
linuxram@us.ibm.com, gh@us.ibm.com,
elsa-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [patch 1/2] fork_connector: add a fork connector
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 10:44:22 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4249A206.4010506@engr.sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050329072335.52b06462.pj@engr.sgi.com>
Paul Jackson wrote:
> Guillaume wrote:
>
>> The goal of the fork connector is to inform a user space application
>>that a fork occurs in the kernel. This information (cpu ID, parent PID
>>and child PID) can be used by several user space applications. It's not
>>only for accounting. Accounting and fork_connector are two different
>>things and thus, fork_connector doesn't do the merge of any kinds of
>>data (and it will never do).
>
>
> Yes - it is clear that the fork_connector does this - inform user space
> of fork information <cpu, parent, child>. I'm not saying that
> fork_connector should merge data; I'm observing that it doesn't, and
> that this would seem to serve the needs of accounting poorly.
Paul,
You probably can look at it this way: the accounting data being
written out by BSD are per process data and the fork connector
provides information needed to group processes into process
aggregates.
Thanks,
- jay
>
> Out of curiosity, what are these 'several user space applications?' The
> only one I know of is this extension to bsd accounting to include
> capturing parent and child pid at fork. Probably you've mentioned some
> other uses of fork_connector before here, but I missed it.
>
>
>>The relayfs is done, like Evgeniy said, for large amount of
>>datas. So I think that it's not suitable for what we want to achieve
>>with the fork connector.
>
>
> I never claimed that relayfs was appropriate for fork_connector.
>
> I'm not trying to tape a rock to Evgeniy's screwdriver. I'm saying that
> accounting looks like a nail to me, so let us see what rocks and hammers
> we have in our tool box.
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-03-29 18:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-03-25 10:03 [patch 1/2] fork_connector: add a fork connector Guillaume Thouvenin
2005-03-25 22:45 ` dean gaudet
2005-03-28 21:42 ` Paul Jackson
2005-03-29 7:04 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-03-29 7:02 ` Greg KH
2005-03-29 7:10 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-03-29 8:49 ` Paul Jackson
2005-03-29 9:17 ` Guillaume Thouvenin
2005-03-29 15:23 ` Paul Jackson
2005-03-29 18:44 ` Jay Lan [this message]
2005-03-30 1:05 ` Paul Jackson
2005-03-30 5:39 ` Guillaume Thouvenin
2005-03-30 6:35 ` Paul Jackson
2005-03-30 10:25 ` Herbert Xu
2005-03-30 10:57 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-03-30 11:01 ` Guillaume Thouvenin
2005-04-01 3:26 ` Drew Hess
2005-03-29 10:29 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-03-29 17:03 ` Paul Jackson
2005-03-29 21:09 ` Jay Lan
2005-03-29 22:01 ` Paul Jackson
2005-03-30 14:14 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-03-30 20:56 ` Paul Jackson
2005-03-30 6:06 ` dean gaudet
2005-03-30 6:25 ` Paul Jackson
2005-03-30 6:38 ` Guillaume Thouvenin
2005-03-30 18:11 ` Jay Lan
2005-03-29 8:05 ` Guillaume Thouvenin
2005-03-29 14:47 ` Paul Jackson
2005-03-29 12:51 ` Guillaume Thouvenin
2005-03-29 15:35 ` Paul Jackson
2005-03-30 5:52 ` Guillaume Thouvenin
2005-03-30 6:41 ` Paul Jackson
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-03-17 9:04 Guillaume Thouvenin
2005-03-17 16:56 ` Jesse Barnes
2005-03-17 21:38 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-03-17 22:05 ` Jesse Barnes
2005-03-21 8:23 ` Guillaume Thouvenin
2005-03-21 12:48 ` Guillaume Thouvenin
2005-03-21 20:52 ` Ram
2005-03-22 4:36 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-03-22 18:40 ` Ram
2005-03-22 7:07 ` Guillaume Thouvenin
2005-03-22 18:15 ` Jay Lan
2005-03-23 8:15 ` Guillaume Thouvenin
2005-03-22 18:26 ` Ram
2005-03-22 19:22 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-03-22 19:18 ` Ram
2005-03-22 20:25 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-03-22 20:42 ` Ram
2005-03-23 4:52 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-03-22 22:51 ` Jay Lan
2005-03-22 23:51 ` Jay Lan
2005-03-23 5:01 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
[not found] ` <1111557106.23532.65.camel@uganda>
2005-03-23 19:00 ` Ram
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