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From: David Greaves <david@dgreaves.com>
To: linux-raid@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Questions about software RAID
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:08:40 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4264BC88.4050209@dgreaves.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050419071514.GB29247@percy.comedia.it>

Luca Berra wrote:

> many people find it easier to understand if raid partitions are set to
> 0XFD. kernel autodetection is broken and should not be relied upon.

Could you clarify what is broken?
I understood that it was simplistic (ie if you have a raid0 built over a 
raid5
or something exotic then it may have problems) but essentially worked.
Could it be :
* broken for complex raid on raid
* broken for root devices
* fine for 'simple', non-root devices

>
>
>>> >4) I guess the partitions itself doesn't have to be formated as the
>>> >filesystem is on the RAID-level. Is that correct?
>>> compulsory!
>>
>>
>> I meant, the /dev/mdX has to be formatted, not the individual
>> partitions. Still right?
>
> compulsory! if you do anything on the individual components you'll 
> damage data.
>
>>> >5) Removing a disk requires that I do a "mdadm -r" on all the 
>>> partitions
>>> >that is involved in a RAID array. I attempt to by a hot-swap capable
>>> >controler, so what happens if I just pull out the disk without this
>>> >manual removal command?
>>> as far as md is concerned the disk disappeared.
>>> I _think_ this is just like mdadm -r.
>>
> i think it will be marked faulty, not removed.

yep - you're right, I remember now.
You have to mdadm -r remove it and re-add it once you restore the disk.

>
>> So I could actually just pull out the disk, insert a new one and do a
>> "mdadm -a /dev/mdX /dev/sdY"?
>> The RAID system won't detect the newly inserted disk itself?
>
> no, think of it as flexibility. if you want you can build something
> using the "hotplug" subsystem.

or:
no, it would be mighty strange if the raid subsystem just grabbed every
new disk it saw...
Think of what would happen when I insert my camera's compact flash card
and it suddenly gets used as a hot spare <grin>



I'll leave Luca's last word - although it's also worth re-reading Peter's
first words!!

David

> one last word:
> never trust howtos (they should be called howidid), they have the
> tendency to apply to the author configuration, not yours.
> general documentation is far more accurate.


  reply	other threads:[~2005-04-19  8:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-04-18 19:50 Questions about software RAID tmp
2005-04-18 20:12 ` David Greaves
2005-04-18 23:12   ` tmp
2005-04-19  6:36     ` Peter T. Breuer
2005-04-19  7:15     ` Luca Berra
2005-04-19  8:08       ` David Greaves [this message]
2005-04-19 12:18         ` Michael Tokarev
2005-04-19 12:08     ` Don't use whole disks for raid arrays [was: Questions about software RAID] Michael Tokarev
2005-04-18 20:15 ` Questions about software RAID Peter T. Breuer
2005-04-18 20:50 ` Frank Wittig
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-04-19 11:00 bernd
2005-04-19 14:40 ` Hervé Eychenne
2005-04-19 15:27   ` David Greaves
2005-04-19 15:54     ` Hervé Eychenne
2005-04-19 16:53       ` Frank Wittig
2005-04-19 17:54         ` Hervé Eychenne
2005-04-19 19:46           ` Frank Wittig
2005-04-20  4:15             ` Guy
2005-04-20  7:59               ` David Greaves
2005-04-20  9:26                 ` Molle Bestefich
2005-04-20  9:32                   ` Hervé Eychenne
2005-04-20 17:36                     ` Molle Bestefich
2005-04-20 11:16                   ` Peter T. Breuer
2005-04-20 12:34                     ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2005-04-20 15:49               ` Martin K. Petersen
2005-04-21  1:21                 ` Guy

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