From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
To: Petr Baudis <pasky@ucw.cz>
Cc: Ray Heasman <lists@mythral.org>,
Git Mailing List <git@vger.kernel.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: Hash collision count
Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 20:35:57 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <426AE9ED.4060005@pobox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050423234637.GS13222@pasky.ji.cz>
Petr Baudis wrote:
> Dear diary, on Sun, Apr 24, 2005 at 01:20:21AM CEST, I got a letter
> where Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com> told me that...
>
>>Second, in your scenario, it's highly unlikely you would get 4 billion
>>sha1 hash collisions, even if you had the disk space to store such a git
>>database.
>
>
> It's highly unlikely you would get a _single_ collision.
Agreed.
>>First, the hash is NOT unique.
>>
>>Second, you lose data if you pretend it is unique. I don't like losing
>>data.
>
>
> *sigh*
>
> We've been through this before, haven't we?
<shrug>
In messing around with archive servers, people get nervous using
(hash,value) based storage if there isn't even a simple test for collisions.
Someone just told me that one implementation of the Venti archive
server[1] simply fails the write, if a data item exists with a duplicate
hash value. As long as git fails or does something -predictable- in the
face of the hash collision, I'm satisfied.
Jeff
[1] http://www.cs.bell-labs.com/sys/doc/venti/venti.html
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-04-24 0:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-04-23 20:27 Hash collision count Jeff Garzik
2005-04-23 20:33 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-04-23 23:00 ` Ray Heasman
2005-04-23 23:20 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-04-23 23:46 ` Petr Baudis
2005-04-24 0:35 ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2005-04-24 0:40 ` Petr Baudis
2005-04-24 0:43 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-04-24 21:24 ` Imre Simon
2005-04-24 22:25 ` Whales falling on houses - was: " Jon Seymour
2005-04-25 23:50 ` Tom Lord
2005-04-26 0:00 ` Petr Baudis
2005-04-24 1:01 ` Ray Heasman
2005-04-24 7:56 ` David Lang
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-04-24 23:16 linux
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