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From: Rick Jones <rick.jones2@hp.com>
To: netdev@oss.sgi.com
Cc: netdev-bounce@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: [RFC/PATCH] "strict" ipv4 reassembly
Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 15:18:23 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <428A6DAF.7040600@hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0505171501510.3184@linux.site>

Arthur Kepner wrote:
> On Tue, 17 May 2005, Rick Jones wrote:
> 
> 
>>....
>>or an added heuristic of "if have reassembled N datagrams for the same
>>source/dest/protocol tuple with ID's "larger" than 'this one' since it has
>>arrived, we are probably going to wrap so might as well drop 'this one'"  for
>>some judicious and magical selection of N that may be a decent predictor of
>>wrap on top of some existing reassembly timout.
>>....
> 
> 
> How do you define "larger" in this case? A sender is free to choose 
> any ID - they can't be assumed to be montonic, for sure. 

Actually, I was ass-u-me-ing they would be monotonic, but thinking about it 
more, that doesn't really matter.  If N datagrams from that source/dest/prot 
tuple have been reassembled since the first/current frag of this datagam has 
arrived, chances are still good that the rest of the fragments of this datagram 
are toast and any subsequent fragments with a matching src/dst/prot/id would 
likely create a frankengram.

in broad handwaving terms, those N other datagrams (non-fragmented or fragmented 
and successfully reassembled or not I suspect) are a measure of just how far 
"out of order" the rest of the fragments of this datagram happen to be.  for 
some degree of "out of orderness" we can ass-u-me the datagram is toast.

chosing a strawman, if we've received 24000 datagrams from that source/dest/prot 
(perhaps even just that source) since we've started reassembling this datagram 
from that source/dest/prot, chances seem pretty good indeed that this datagram 
is toast.  a value of N even smaller than 24000 might suffice.

the devil seems to be in the accounting.

rick jones

  reply	other threads:[~2005-05-17 22:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-05-17 16:18 [RFC/PATCH] "strict" ipv4 reassembly Arthur Kepner
2005-05-17 17:49 ` David S. Miller
2005-05-17 18:28   ` Arthur Kepner
2005-05-17 18:48     ` David S. Miller
2005-05-17 20:21       ` Arthur Kepner
2005-05-17 18:38   ` Andi Kleen
2005-05-17 18:45     ` Pekka Savola
2005-05-17 18:50     ` David S. Miller
2005-05-17 18:56       ` Rick Jones
2005-05-17 18:57     ` John Heffner
2005-05-17 19:09       ` David S. Miller
2005-05-17 19:21         ` Rick Jones
2005-05-17 19:26         ` Ben Greear
2005-05-17 20:48         ` Thomas Graf
2005-05-17 19:17       ` Andi Kleen
2005-05-17 19:56         ` David Stevens
2005-05-17 20:17           ` Andi Kleen
2005-05-17 20:22             ` David S. Miller
2005-05-17 20:27               ` Andi Kleen
2005-05-17 21:02                 ` David S. Miller
2005-05-17 21:13                   ` Andi Kleen
2005-05-17 21:24                     ` David S. Miller
2005-05-17 21:25                   ` Rick Jones
2005-05-17 22:06                     ` Arthur Kepner
2005-05-17 22:18                       ` Rick Jones [this message]
2005-05-17 22:40                         ` David Stevens
2005-05-17 23:11                           ` Herbert Xu
2005-05-17 23:20                             ` Arthur Kepner
2005-05-17 23:25                               ` Herbert Xu
2005-05-17 23:55                                 ` David Stevens
2005-05-18  0:00                                   ` Herbert Xu
2005-05-18  0:04                                 ` Andi Kleen
2005-05-18  0:09                                   ` Herbert Xu
2005-05-18  0:52                                     ` David S. Miller
2005-05-18  0:06                                 ` Nivedita Singhvi
2005-05-18  0:10                                   ` Herbert Xu
2005-05-18  0:51                                     ` David S. Miller
2005-05-18  1:05                                       ` Andi Kleen
2005-05-18  1:13                                       ` Herbert Xu
2005-05-18  1:09                                 ` John Heffner
2005-05-17 23:53                           ` Rick Jones
2005-05-17 22:12                     ` David S. Miller
2005-05-17 22:23                       ` Rick Jones
2005-05-17 20:29           ` John Heffner
2005-05-17 19:01     ` Nivedita Singhvi
2005-05-17 19:13       ` Rick Jones
2005-05-17 19:25         ` Nivedita Singhvi
2005-05-17 19:31           ` John Heffner
2005-05-17 19:52             ` Nivedita Singhvi
2005-05-17 20:05               ` John Heffner
2005-05-17 20:12                 ` Rick Jones
2005-05-17 19:33           ` Rick Jones
2005-05-17 19:53             ` Andi Kleen
2005-05-17 22:11   ` Herbert Xu
2005-05-17 22:13     ` David S. Miller
2005-05-17 23:08       ` Herbert Xu
2005-05-17 23:16         ` David S. Miller
2005-05-17 23:28           ` Herbert Xu
2005-05-17 23:36             ` Patrick McHardy
2005-05-17 23:41               ` Herbert Xu
2005-05-18  0:47     ` Thomas Graf
2005-05-18  1:06       ` Arthur Kepner
2005-05-18  1:16       ` Herbert Xu
2005-05-18  1:37         ` Thomas Graf
2005-05-18  1:52           ` Herbert Xu
2005-05-18 11:30             ` Thomas Graf
2005-05-18 11:40               ` Herbert Xu
2005-05-18 12:24                 ` Thomas Graf
2005-05-18 16:21           ` Rick Jones
2005-05-18 17:40             ` Thomas Graf
2005-05-18 17:44               ` Thomas Graf
2005-05-18 21:46                 ` Herbert Xu
2005-05-18 22:24                   ` David Stevens
2005-05-18 22:39                     ` Nivedita Singhvi
2005-05-18 23:31                     ` Thomas Graf
2005-05-18 21:45             ` Herbert Xu
2005-05-19 12:23               ` Thomas Graf
2005-05-19 12:48                 ` Herbert Xu
2005-05-19 15:19                   ` Thomas Graf
2005-05-19 17:02                 ` Rick Jones

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