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From: David Hopwood <david.nospam.hopwood@blueyonder.co.uk>
To: xen-devel@lists.xensource.com
Subject: Re: HT Vulnerability CAN-2005-0109
Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 00:09:21 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <428BCB21.7020909@blueyonder.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200505181548.48629.mark.williamson@cl.cam.ac.uk>

Mark Williamson wrote:
>>Just stumbled on /. upon CAN-2005-0109 and wonder if xen is affected:
>>
>>  <http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CAN-2005-0109>
>>  <http://www.daemonology.net/hyperthreading-considered-harmful/>
> 
> This vulnerability could (in principle) affect isolation between Xen VMs.  
> It's not clear how exploitable it is, though.

It's clear that it is very exploitable.

> Covert channels will *always* be there.

Yes. As you say, the problem is the side channel attack, not the covert
channel.

> Someone has yet to release code that'll actually exploit these theoretical 
> holes, so it's not clear how big a problem is in practice.

Huh? That sounds like something I would expect to hear from a Microsoft
marketroid. The paper includes code for the side channel attack (Figure 1
in <http://www.daemonology.net/papers/htt.pdf>), and even if it didn't, it
would be easy to replicate.

-- 
David Hopwood <david.nospam.hopwood@blueyonder.co.uk>

  reply	other threads:[~2005-05-18 23:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-05-18 14:43 HT Vulnerability CAN-2005-0109 Nils Toedtmann
2005-05-18 14:48 ` Mark Williamson
2005-05-18 23:09   ` David Hopwood [this message]
2005-05-19  2:46     ` Mark Williamson
2005-05-19 10:33       ` Nils Toedtmann
2005-05-19 17:45       ` David Hopwood
2005-06-01 14:01         ` Mark Williamson
2005-06-02 16:41           ` David Hopwood
2005-06-03 13:38             ` Mark Williamson
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-05-18 15:27 Jonathan S. Shapiro
2005-05-18 16:44 ` Mark Williamson
2005-05-18 16:53   ` Jonathan S. Shapiro
2005-05-18 17:14     ` Mark Williamson
2005-05-19 10:59 Ian Pratt
2005-05-19 12:55 ` Nils Toedtmann

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