From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: David Masover Subject: Re: Reiser4 O_DIRECT Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 18:28:58 -0500 Message-ID: <4293B8BA.20808@slaphack.com> References: <1116525192.29446.5.camel@zion> <1116578526.3532.463.camel@tribesman.namesys.com> <1695540869.20050521234900@wp.pl> <200505222247.j4MMlr85008867@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <4291225B.5090503@slaphack.com> <20050523095212.GD11013@nysv.org> <200505231653.j4NGrksq017538@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <42921886.40404@namesys.com> <42939E37.8060107@slaphack.com> <200505242155.j4OLt9mD023120@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Errors-To: flx@namesys.com In-Reply-To: <200505242155.j4OLt9mD023120@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> List-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu Cc: Hans Reiser , =?UTF-8?B?TWFya3VzIO+/vQ==?= , Pysiak Satriani , reiserfs-list@namesys.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote: > On Tue, 24 May 2005 16:35:51 CDT, David Masover said: > > >>My feeling is that you create the standard as you create the test, not >>the other way around. If the test works, then there are by definition >>few bugs if any in the system itself -- any other bugs are actually in >>the application, not the system. > > > That's even worse. Then if somebody bodgers it all up with some corner case > that your test system didn't cover, you're by definition screwed, as the > standard won't say what it *SHOULD* do.... > > Consider the vast philosophical difference between "This is what the FS *should* > do" and "This is what we tested the FS for". You want the standard to be the > first, not the second..... No, you want them all to be the same thing. You want "This is what we tested the FS for" to be broad enough that you really don't have very many bugs at any stage in development. But then, I'm being overly optimistic. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQIVAwUBQpO4ungHNmZLgCUhAQKDIg//S5gF75thisHjI7DjzecyVCjhvSJxNIX6 aTljjVP9QjNu85X2q7QFHvqoKL8frrn+nTZ+70gUdN9FQL4S7nn0SbtBED/Rra9A C2vPDr89yoCOpP1mTVw/0URnDtwV3AmFxwnMYrfz1nfBReCUcYKeY6NBUNeS/eWV h51FvSc10r7dxsI287svUlxpNTeyySogvjhhTa6C2v1kkLAyvgJ5AEmTDXkE01k9 aaJ+YJgAfgu5l1TRQHpZm9ck7ikBkXqGMrc/+vb6L3AHnMGfbinIDN8x8UD/l7XB 0nF4sgh+h30bjwF08+B5vc6SQeTSKL/L5ZxUg6J3G0GhduS9wAYb5bvGxZUYd79X Va+/M1kWjFF14o9ORGIfsNDNXxzM1dPL+0JjtnDwnqF2ahuKEYfIq67A4ggRFL3+ HkZb1p4cVi0YaGG39nADEiOOddyL/5vQxIyRgbY/j7gZWORZd3XS0tYGRfyz4lBF 8WLLvoKtO3PEVF89KSFj4nOUR9piIbHt96zEckbX11v4igskl5Uf9VZzTfuUzzlY Fhr22FPJLCBmYQGljjBguwOExYHbATCPaYjFwl99SHx7XAAc0ezz5qwP+UUMcRUc riiYaHN0MgSctz3h/D1KeiUvyMjpm2QTKOAw59h0/XB0owfnpovnW9xznPIlu5e4 f4CR1VQPMfI= =c/WP -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----