From: jmerkey <jmerkey@utah-nac.org>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: Nico Schottelius <nico-kernel@schottelius.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Why is one sync() not enough?
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:39:33 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <42AFA2F5.6010707@utah-nac.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050614215032.35d44e93.akpm@osdl.org>
There are cases where bitmaps can dirty themselves in the FS's (I have
had to deal with several of these issues in 2.6) after a sync,
and I have found that:
#
# sync
# sync
#
is required on ext2 in some situations due to some race conditions with
remote and local clients using device based FS's, so
there are some holes -- and comments in ext2 and several other FS's seem
to bear this assumption out.
:-)
Jeff
Andrew Morton wrote:
>Nico Schottelius <nico-kernel@schottelius.org> wrote:
>
>
>>Hello again!
>>
>>When my system shuts down and init calls sync() and after that
>>umount and then reboot, the filesystem is left in an unclean state.
>>
>>If I do sync() two times (one before umount, one after umount) it
>>seems to work.
>>
>>
>>
>
>That's a bug.
>
>The standards say that sync() is supposed to "start" I/O, or something
>similarly vague and waffly. The Linux implementation of sync() has always
>started all I/O and then waited upon all of it before returning from
>sync().
>
>And umount() itself will sync everything to disk, so the additional sync()
>calls should be unnecessary.
>
>That being said, if umount was leaving dirty filesystems then about 1000000
>people would be complaining. So there's something unusual about your
>setup.
>
>What filesystem? What kernel version? Any unusual bind mounts, loopback
>mounts, etc? There must be something there...
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-06-15 5:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-06-14 9:41 Why is one sync() not enough? Nico Schottelius
2005-06-14 12:58 ` Martin Waitz
2005-06-14 15:58 ` Jesper Juhl
2005-06-14 18:36 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-06-15 6:19 ` Nico Schottelius
2005-06-15 4:50 ` Andrew Morton
2005-06-15 3:39 ` jmerkey [this message]
2005-06-15 8:20 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2005-06-15 10:55 ` Nico Schottelius
2005-06-15 19:41 ` Andrew Morton
2005-06-15 8:17 ` Helge Hafting
2005-06-15 9:28 ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-06-15 9:43 ` Coywolf Qi Hunt
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